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Marriage look-ups St Paul, Hendon & St Peter, Monkwearmouth
« on: Wednesday 31 December 14 13:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Am looking for someone to look up the following marriages for me to confirm whether they are sisters with the same father, as I can't find the family in the 1861 census.
The first was announced in the Sunderland Daily Echo 28 December 1875 St Pauls (am presuming St Pauls, Hendon) between George Ridley Douglass and Hannah Turner
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Monkwearmouth Parish Church (presuming St Peter) 12 February 1861 between Robert Hardy and Mary Turner
Highton, Leadbetter, Wright, Marshall, Howard - Southport, Lancashire
Wilson, Hardy, Turner - Durham
Dow, Cramb, Moir, McAndrew - Perthshire, Scotland
Davies - Runcorn, Cheshire
Brown, Lancaster, Battersby - Staffordshire

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Re: Marriage look-ups St Paul, Hendon & St Peter, Monkwearmouth
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 16:50 GMT (UK) »
The Robert Hardy marriage gives Mary Turners father as  John Turner
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXPF-GK1
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Re: Marriage look-ups St Paul, Hendon & St Peter, Monkwearmouth
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 17:10 GMT (UK) »
Hannah Douglas is on the 1881 census RG11/4996 f113 page 56 - also there is her mother Eleanor Turner.

1871 has Eleanor 41 with daughter Hannah age 16  RG10/5004 f8 p9
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Re: Marriage look-ups St Paul, Hendon & St Peter, Monkwearmouth
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 19:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Thanks for the information both marriages have John Turner as the father of both girls but I need an occupation for John and an address to confirm whether I have the right family.

Hannah I think could be the daughter of John Jnr son of John, which would fit with the census you found but confirmation of the details of marriage is needed to be sure.

1851     Detail: Class: HO107; Piece: 2395; Folio: 249; Page: 1; GSU roll: 87073.
Durham Road, Bishopwearmouth
John Turner    M   Head   43   Engineman   Northumberland, Benton
Hannah Turner    M   Wife   38         Northumberland, Byker
John Turner      son   18   Engineman   Durham, Jarrow
Mark Turner      son   14   Labourer      Houghton Le Spring
Robert Turner      son   11   Scholar      Hoghton Le Spring
Mary Turner      dau   9   Scholar      Houghton Le Spring

1871     Detail: Class: HO107; Piece: 2395; Folio: 249; Page: 1; GSU roll: 87073.
15 Winchester Terrace, Bishopwearmouth
John Turner   W   Head   63   Beerhousekeeper   North. Walken
Thomas William Turner   son   11   Scholar      South Shields
Highton, Leadbetter, Wright, Marshall, Howard - Southport, Lancashire
Wilson, Hardy, Turner - Durham
Dow, Cramb, Moir, McAndrew - Perthshire, Scotland
Davies - Runcorn, Cheshire
Brown, Lancaster, Battersby - Staffordshire


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Re: Marriage look-ups St Paul, Hendon & St Peter, Monkwearmouth
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 22:20 GMT (UK) »
The two Johns in 1861 :

2 Thomas St., Sunderland,
John Turner, 28, Engineer, b. Bishopwearmouth,
Elen ", wife, 31, b. Bishopwearmouth,
Hanah ", dau, 6, b. Monkwearmouth,
RG9/3778/81/1

16 West Holborn - Queens Head Inn, South Shields,
John Turner, 54, Independant Brewer, b. Northumberland, Walker,
Hannah ", wife, 49, b. Newcastle upon Tyne,
Mary Hardy, dau, 20, Seamans Wife, b. Houghton le Spring,
Thomas Turner, son, 1, b. South Shields.
RG9/3794/56/7

Page for this one seems to be missing on Ancestry, or rather goes to the wrong page.

Probably need the younger Johns marriage cert to confirm he is the son of the older John.

Alan.
Northumberland - Smith, Willis,
Durham - Rogerson, Child
Cumberland - Irving, Hill
North Yorkshire - Layfield,
Ireland - Collins

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Re: Marriage look-ups St Paul, Hendon & St Peter, Monkwearmouth
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 January 15 10:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi
And a Million thanks Alan!!! I've been looking for John and family in the '61 census for years!!!
This confirms what I had thought with the marriages etc it was the major occupation change from engineer to beerseller that had me a little confused as to whether I had the right families. This does confirm that but if anyone is going anywhere to look at the marriages I would be grateful for the look-ups.
I don't have information on which church John Turner jnr married so will have to save for certificate.
I think he married Ellen Potts March qtr 1854 Sunderland District.
Thanks again  :)
Kathryn
Highton, Leadbetter, Wright, Marshall, Howard - Southport, Lancashire
Wilson, Hardy, Turner - Durham
Dow, Cramb, Moir, McAndrew - Perthshire, Scotland
Davies - Runcorn, Cheshire
Brown, Lancaster, Battersby - Staffordshire

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Re: Marriage look-ups St Paul, Hendon & St Peter, Monkwearmouth
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 January 15 11:28 GMT (UK) »
Am looking for someone to look up the following marriages for me to confirm whether they are sisters with the same father, as I can't find the family in the 1861 census.
Not sisters after all then  :-\   :)



1854 marriage for Ellen Potts
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXGR-KFF
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Re: Marriage look-ups St Paul, Hendon & St Peter, Monkwearmouth
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 01 January 15 12:49 GMT (UK) »
Hiya
No, I think I was getting myself a little confused - which is not too difficult with this family  :-\
Mary is the Aunt of Hannah, I think, both with father's John Turner, who at some point were both engineers!!
Struggling with sorting the different relationships out due to not being able to look at Parish Registers for Baptisms and Marriages will have to have a few days in Durham at some point this year as I'd like to be able to sort things out!
Thanks for your help - Happy New Year  :)
Highton, Leadbetter, Wright, Marshall, Howard - Southport, Lancashire
Wilson, Hardy, Turner - Durham
Dow, Cramb, Moir, McAndrew - Perthshire, Scotland
Davies - Runcorn, Cheshire
Brown, Lancaster, Battersby - Staffordshire