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Denis edward Brinkhurst look up
« on: Sunday 28 December 14 02:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Need any info that I can get on this man born approx 1885 in Tunbridge England .. died in 1916 in |Ontario Canada. his wife was listed as Kate brinkhurst or at least that was the informant on his death cert. and he was married so l am assuming it was her, what I am looking for is any info on Kate or a child born to her in the next yr or 2 his name was Edward also ...the child as far as I know lists his  mother  as Kate brinkhurst but later had his name  changed  to Edward lane, I don't have a subscription to ancestry .ca  so if anyone can give me anymore info on denis or Kate or the child Edward that would be great ,
Thanks in advance '

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Re: Denis edward Brinkhurst look up
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 28 December 14 03:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jamie

The 1916 death cert mentioned, for which "Kate BRINKHURST " of the same address (87 Peter Street, Hamilton, Wentworth, Ontario), is the informant, names the deceased's  father as "Wm BRINKHURST".  All records point to this Dennis Edward BRINKHURST actually  having been born in Sussex to William BRINKURST and his wife Jane Alma  ELLIS. The family was in Sussex 1881, In Speldhurst Kent 1891 and in Tunbridge Wells by 1901 &  thereafter.

Travel 1910: UK to Canada
Dennis E BRINKHURST 25, Rly Work
Departed  Bristol on 29 Dec 1910, on the 'Royal Edward' bound for Quebec, Canada

Travel 1912:  Canada to UK
Denis BRINKHURST 26, Bricklayer, Last Permanent Residence; Canada
Arrived at Bristol on 5 Dec 1912 on the 'Royal Edward', out of Halifax , Nova Scotia

The child Edward BRINKHURST or LANE - are you saying this child was born  1916 -1920? 
On what record does he list his mother as BRINKHURST?  Did he also state his own Surname as BRINKHURST at that time?  (For privacy reasons for living persons, is this person deceased?)


Could be red Herrings....but:

1920: A Kate BRINKHURST married  on 9 Oct to Albert BRYAN in Brandon, Manitoba

1921: Census in Brandon, Manitoba show :
Albert age 40,  b abt 1881 England, imm 1902
Wife: Kate 31, b abt 1890 England, imm 1899
Dau: Florence 16, b abt 1905 Alberta
Son: Alfred 15, b abt 1906 England
Son: Roy B., 7, b abt 1914, Ontario

Albert's first wife was Norah - they are in Ontario in 1911 - with Florence, Alfred and an older son.

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AMBLY

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Re: Denis edward Brinkhurst look up
« Reply #2 on: Monday 29 December 14 05:35 GMT (UK) »
That was a good find Ambly... Jamie, you can send for that 1920 marriage here: http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php  It may or may not give her maiden name if this is she.

The son Roy B....could be a late child with Nora dying in childbirth?....Or does he belong to Kate?

( BTW have not found a death for Norah in Ontario or Manitoba)

The 1911 census with Bryan family....Francis marked as born Quebec, not Alberta...
 http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=77668
 http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=77667

an online tree with Denis  http://www.blackmanfamily.org/p26016.htm
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Re: Denis edward Brinkhurst look up
« Reply #3 on: Monday 29 December 14 06:09 GMT (UK) »
Not saying this is positively he, but could look into this being Roy from the 1911 census
Find A Grave has a Roy Dennis Brinkhurst
Death 8 February 1965  burial: 1965 Winnipeg, Brookside Cemetery
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=111392934

So are you thinking that Kate had another child out of wedlock after the death of Dennis....and perhaps gave him up, or are you simply looking for a Kate with that last name and this one came into view? Was your Edward known to have been born Ontario for certain?


If you think this Roy may have been a rellie, then probate file, will, estate file can be found at the archives...Year 1965: Brinkhurst, Roy D.  993/65  E67  214
You can request a lookup through the site  http://www.gov.mb.ca/chc/archives/probate/


 
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Re: Denis edward Brinkhurst look up
« Reply #4 on: Monday 29 December 14 06:27 GMT (UK) »
There is an obituary for Roy Dennis Brinkhurst in the Winnipeg Free Press. It does say he was 51 when he died and he was born in Hamilton. It said he was survived by 2 brothers and 3 sisters but doesn't give names.

I do find it curious that this Edward would list his mother as Kate Brinkhurst if that was her married name rather than by her maiden surname.

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Re: Denis edward Brinkhurst look up
« Reply #5 on: Monday 29 December 14 06:42 GMT (UK) »
Good find jacquie..Well it is looking to be the correct family with one more son being?? Edward Lane? Now was that Kate's surname or the name of the father....
Albert Bryan Head 31 Eng.  Norah Bryan 33 Eng.
Nellie Bryan  9 Eng. 
Frances Bryan 7 Quebec
Florence Bryan 6 Quebec
Alfred Bryan 4 England

Voter's lists have an Evelyn  with Roy 1945 Winnipeg Mb. & 1949 Selkirk Mb.
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Re: Denis edward Brinkhurst look up
« Reply #6 on: Monday 29 December 14 07:26 GMT (UK) »
Wondering if we might simply have a case of age discrepancy...as I looked at the 1921 census and saw a lad of 15 who states he was born Quebec in 1906 / both parents born England...lodging & a student in a reformatory...  don't see any others by that surname in Quebec.
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Are we looking for the Edward Brinkhurst whose marriage & death were in England ? 
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Re: Denis edward Brinkhurst look up
« Reply #7 on: Monday 29 December 14 09:08 GMT (UK) »

' I do find it curious that this Edward would list his mother as Kate Brinkhurst if that was her married name rather than by her maiden surname. '

Surely as her name was Kate Brinkhurst when she gave birth to him, then that was the name she would use, and he would be given the Brinkhurst surname - why should she revert to her maiden surname?

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 29 December 14 10:27 GMT (UK) »
We don't actually know if Kate Brinkhurst who was informant to the death of Dennis Edward BRINKHURST was in fact his wife (legally or otherwise).  She could have been a sister, cousin....

There's a myriad of scenarios - including , if she gave birth to Edward while legally named & the widow of  BRINKHURST - then I suppose Edward would be legally required to be registered as "BRINKHURST". He may have later adopted the use of for example, his mother's maiden name or the name of his natural father - either of which could be  LANE.  Or maybe she was nee BRINKHURST, but he later took the name of his natural father or a step father. The OP may be able to clarify further on answering my question in Reply#1.

I spotted a mention in the Winnipeg Free Press: Friday, April 16, 1954 - Page 33, of a Roy Brinkhurst Bryan family thanking folk for their support after a recent bereavement.

Then find this:
http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/1154570?PHPSESSID=bfa2dc1cbb74c8df7b4af31f1f5a7fdb

Katherine (Brinkhurst) BRYAN   ?-1954
From a Memorial Stone:
Hamilton Cemetery   (Section S), Wentworth County, Ontario
In memoriam to his third wife Katherine Brinkhurst.
Widow of Daniel and mother to Roy Dennis
was born to George Brinkhurst and his wife Ann Gurrs of Tunbridge Wells, England.
Katherine was the mother to Albert, Marguerite, Albert John and twins Mervin and Marjorie.
Died 1 April 1954. Interred at St. James, Winnipeg.

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