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John MATHEWS (Matthews) Vicar Choral of St Patricks Dublin
« on: Friday 19 December 14 09:05 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for the marriage of the above to Elizabeth Catherine ? or Catherine Elizabeth?
c 1800. He was Vicar Choral at St Patricks and there is also an organist Listed John Mathews from 1806-1827 which I guess could be him.
I have also found info stating that a John Mathews was principal copiest at St Patricks for the last 1/4 of the 18th century. The 1798 transcript of Handel's Messiah was his. I am guessing that he was John's father. This was bequeathed to a son George.
Any info would be very helpful..

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Re: John MATHEWS (Matthews) Vicar Choral of St Patricks Dublin
« Reply #2 on: Friday 19 December 14 21:11 GMT (UK) »
Thank you. This must be the father of John Mathews. I have found an article that says John Mathews( senior) lived in Dublin from 1776 until his death in 1799. I have also found mention to him having a son George. John senior was also organist at St Mary's from 1790-1799. There was also a William Mathews who was an organist at St Mary's who was buried 7  April 1797 aged 28 at St Patricks. Also burial there of Anna Frances Mathews aged 4 months on 14 April 1797. William could have been another son of John Mathews senior. There was also a Thomas Mathews who was organist at St Mary's to 1812 then he became Chanter's Vicar at Christ Church to 1830. So possibly all the same family.
John Mathews junior was my GGGG Grandfather. He had children in the first decade of the 1800's, but I am not exactly sure what year his oldest daughter was born - Ann. My GGG Grandmother Elizabeth married in 1819 but I don't have her birth year either.

Any help greatly appreciated with this family.

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Re: John MATHEWS (Matthews) Vicar Choral of St Patricks Dublin
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 21 December 14 21:35 GMT (UK) »
I have been researching my Irish  Matthews family for  quite some time now and I have the following:

My GGGG Grandfather

John Mathews/Matthews married Mary Martin in 1766 in Salisbury St Thomas, Wiltshire

Principle Copyist at St Patrick's Cathedral and Vicar Choral. Cathedral Singer.

Also found in Durham Cathedral and Salisbury Cathedral

Death 1799 Dublin.


His Son my GGG Grandfather

John Mathews born about 1768, death 1854 in Clanbrassil Street, Dublin

Possible Marriage to  Catherine Shaw in 1787 in Cashel Cathedral.

Vicar Choral, Organist 1806-1827

Their children were  Anne, your Elizabeth and John, plus others

This John is my GG Grandfather born abt 1804 according to his death notice.

I have struggled to find their  births but it could be they were born in Cashel.

Four daughters married into two of the L'estrange  families, found here.

http://www.bomford.net/

All the information you have found is the same as I  have and if I find anymore I will let you know.

Regards Christine








Mathew/Mathews - Tipperary
Matthews - Dublin
Langron - Dublin
Davies - Galway and Sligo
Doyle - Dublin and Wicklow
Trafford - Ireland ?

Page - Balham/Wandsworth
Champion - Clapham/Wandsworth
Lang - Guernsey
Pitcher - Guernsey

Docwra - Royston Hertfordshire/Chelsea London
Burgess - Chelsea and Pimlico
Hession - Mayo Ireland
Pateman - Litlington Cambridgeshire
Norman - Clerkenwell, Islington and Fulham

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Re: John MATHEWS (Matthews) Vicar Choral of St Patricks Dublin
« Reply #4 on: Monday 22 December 14 19:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi Christine, (cousin). Great you have this further information. There are baptisms for most of the children of John & Cathe (Elizabeth Catherine) on some. Here is the link to your John
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/f456d70164391
Anne is not there but most are. Four of their children married L'Estranges including my line. Two are brothers and I can't recall the relationship of the other two but I have the details.