SMYTH or SMYTHE family and ESCOTT family, England

[cherry021093]

Hi I am a direct descendant of Harry Escott, he would have been my great granddad.  His daughter Daisy married William George Horton and they were my father's parents, my grandparents.  Grace Escott was her sister and therefore my Great aunt too.  I did meet her on at least one occasion as a small child and I'm sure I have lots of photos of her and her husband and children.  My father and grandfather were both photographers.  I visited the Escott grave only yesterday in Lewes as it would have been my dad's 95th birthday, so I went to lay flowers.  I am new to this site but was doing a search as I do often for hits on the name.  My father was a very late started to parenthood and as such we are much younger by a good generation than we are expected to be, if that makes sense.  Perhaps we can swap notes?  There is also a connection to the Jennings family who are also to this day still involved with Horses and very well known

[jbml]

Cherry ...

Is your great grandfather Harry Escott the Henry Escott that I have born in Marylebone in 1843??

[cherry021093]

I don't think so. I thought he was born in lewes though I'm not currently on ancestry so I can't check my history. He was married to Julia and had William, Anthony, Grace, Daisy, Mabel (think that's right). He was a very successful horse trainer who had grand national and Paris steeplechase winners. The two boys were successful jockies although William died in Paris 1919 following an accident. Mabel married into the Jennings family and they have their own history. 

[Gill S]

Hi, my great great grandfather was Harry Escott (the horse trainer).  My grandmother died when she was very young so I never had the opportunity to get to know the family at all.  Her father, Harry Cecil Escott was Harry Escott's son.  Harry Cecil's siblings were the ones you have mentioned.  I think we are connected to the same family.  I have had no access to any photographs and it has been a battle to find information on my family.  I would love to know more.  I will look for my notes tomorrow to see if the information we both have (I think you have much more) connects.  I'm looking forward to hearing more about my family.  Are you in the UK? 

[RosD]

Here are my Somerset Escott's, just in case you can tie in with them further back in time.

William Escott
George Escott 1719-1764 = Jane Pine 1719-1763
Samuel Escott (Dulverton) 1752-1826 = Ann Greenslade 1759-1808
Thomas Greenslade Escott (Dulverton)1781-1855 = Mary Ann
John Escott 1811 (Withycombe, Somerset)-1866 = Susanna 1811-1867
Francis Escott  1830 (Withycombe Somerset) = Harriet Bendle
Harriet Escott 1856 (my Gt Grandmother) = James Baker 1854

[Fairmeadow2]

Re Harry ESCOTT, Lewes racehorse trainer, 1856-1948.
Always called Harry ESCOTT during his very successful life in Lewes (from before 1881 to his retirement in 1925), first at Hillside and then at Astley House stables. Born Hull (1881) or Blandford, Dorset (1891-1911). Retired to Hove, where he died in 1948. One son by his first marriage to Annie PETTITT. Two more sons and three daughters by his second marriage to Julia nee GEBBIE (British subject born in Paris).
However, in 1871 a stable lad called Harry HISCOCK aged 14 in the Woodyates yard of trainer William DAY.
Birth reg Harry HISCOCK Jun quarter 1856, Blandford reg dist, mother's maiden name HUNT. Bapt Oct 1857 at Blandford aged 1, same name. With his parents in Blandford 1861; left the family by 1871. Youngest son of the family of Richard HISCOCK and Maria HUNT who married at Blandford on 11 Jan 1835.
Seems more convincing if you say "HISCOCK", dropping the H, in a Sussex accent, in which all the emphasis is on the first syllable, the rest of the name mumbled.

[jbml]

That's a really interesting insight, Fairmeadow ... I've always found that trying to pronounce things in the local accent and seeing how they come out is a useful way of attacking some of the more intractible brick walls ...