82 Lorenzo Street, Edmonton - where was it (bombed WW2)?

[corinne]

I have someone who died in the Edmonton Workhouse in August 1915 and gave their address as 82 Lorenzo Road.   I haven't been able to find this address on a map, but some years ago someone pointed me to the area they thought it might have been, that had been bombed in WW2.  I actually visited the area about 10 years ago and could see quite clearly an area of rebuilt houses that contrasted with older houses around the margins of the area.  It was no longer known as Lorenzo Road, but I can't find either my notes or photos, and now can't figure out where it is on a current map.  Can anyone help me identify the area on a current map?

[rosie99]

Hi

Have you looked at the WW2 bomb site page, it appears to cover Edmonton 

http://bombsight.org/#14/51.5705/-0.0633

http://bombsight.org/explore/greater-london/enfield/edmonton-green/

Is it Lorenzo Road or street your title and text differ 

[dawnsh]

The electoral registers have a Lorenzo Street, Finsbury Central Constituency, Islington in the same area as Margaret Street and Lloyd Stret

[rosie99]

The electoral registers have a Lorenzo Street, Finsbury Central Constituency, Islington in the same area as Margaret Street and Lloyd Stret

That is the only one I can see mention of around that time.  Not far from Kings Cross station.

[ChigwellGavin]

I'm pretty certain you mean Lorenco Road, which was in an area once known as Little Russia not far from either Pretoria Road or White Hart Lane. There is no Lorenzo Rd in Edmonton in the 1938 A-Z.

I have an ancestor who lived at number 84 in 1927 and know of a family - the Barber's I think who lived at 80 or 82. It had a Wikipedia mention

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Russia,_London

There are some workhouse details here http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Edmonton/

I have attached a map

[ChigwellGavin]

here is another. Lorenzo Road is in the second row down, the second column in.

[corinne]

Yes, thats definitely the place Gavin.   And now I see the map, I can remember where it was when I went searching for it much more clearly. The wikipedia description of it being a very tough area makes sense.   My relatives there definitely had a hard life with all the children born in the workhouse, and the oldest four staying there most of their childhood.  I'd not heard of it being called Little Russia, so will have to look more into that bit of history.

This time I will have to make sure I save the maps properly so I don't have to go asking the questions again!

[corinne]

It was Ada Morrell (born 1815) who was said to have been born at 82 Lorenco Road.  Seems the family moved around a lot though.  Another brother (born 1908) had his address at birth given as Bridport Road on the birth certificate, but it turned out he was also born in the Workhouse, and Bridport road was the address used on the birth certificate to cover the fact he was a workhouse baby.

[ChigwellGavin]

Yes, thats definitely the place Gavin.   And now I see the map, I can remember where it was when I went searching for it much more clearly. The wikipedia description of it being a very tough area makes sense.   My relatives there definitely had a hard life with all the children born in the workhouse, and the oldest four staying there most of their childhood.  I'd not heard of it being called Little Russia, so will have to look more into that bit of history.

This time I will have to make sure I save the maps properly so I don't have to go asking the questions again!

ask as much as you like if it helps us both to gain fuller understanding of the families who lived there.
My great-grandfather died at No.84 Patrick John Lewis Browne. His son John knew virtually everyone in that area and was one of the few people who who could walk the area without fear of assault. He was a tally-man in that area. As far as I understand it he collected payments from people who had good on hp. There is a chap named Terry Webb who wrote "An Edmonton Boy" which is a short memoir of the area.

I knew Edmonton quite well as a child as most of my family had been born and bought up around there. I don't recognise it now. My aunts and uncles (fondly!) remember playing on the bombsites that still existed in the early sixties. Clearly redevelopment of the area did not rank as a high priority with the government then.