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Martin Molck b. Tonning, Germany c.1835
« on: Saturday 13 December 14 15:02 GMT (UK) »
Martin moved to England and had a relationship/marriage to Harriet Barker and used the name Martin Taylor. He was an engineer on cross channel ferries and still used his original name on ship's registers. He appears to be linked with Calais. Any further information would be brilliant.

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Re: Martin Molck b. Tonning, Germany c.1835
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 13 December 14 22:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jeff

Not sure if you have this already, apologies if so..


1871 Census England London St James Westminster Berwick Street
RG10/140/36/15
2 Archer? Street

MOLCK
Martin Head Marr 34 Mariner Germany
Marie Wife Marr 36 Calais
Charles Fr?? Lodger Unmarr 30 Bricklayer No birthplace provided

In 1873 he appears on a Shipping List for the vessel "Parthia" which arrived in New York 13th Oct 1873. He is listed in the Steerage Passengers as being English not German, aged 38, an Engineer  travelling with his wife Mary who is aged 32.

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Re: Martin Molck b. Tonning, Germany c.1835
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 December 14 10:42 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the 1873 info - I didn't have that

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Re: Martin Molck b. Tonning, Germany c.1835
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 December 14 11:28 GMT (UK) »
You might want to have a look at this tree ? Molck
Tonning is in Schleswig Holstein ,Germany
this familytree is from Norstrand , Schleswig Holstein - sadly no Martin Molck ,but maybe keep the tree on record for future reference ...it is an extensive tree going back to 1612..

http://gw.geneanet.org/karlludwigp?lang=en&v=M%C3%96LCK&m=N


I will try and find out how far Tonning is to Norstrand
ADDED
the German spelling of that village is Norstredt and Tonning to Norstredt is 23 miles - so I would imagine the 1612 - c1835 Molck family in Norstedt are connected to the Tonning family of Molck...23 miles is nothing for the family to spread over 200 years ...lol
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford


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Re: Martin Molck b. Tonning, Germany c.1835
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 14 December 14 11:38 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the tree

A great aunt of mine has been to Tonning and they have no records of a Martin being born there in the years around 1835
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Re: Martin Molck b. Tonning, Germany c.1835
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 14 December 14 11:42 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the tree

A great aunt of mine has been to Tonning and they have no records of a Martin being born there in the years around 1835

just added info to my original post - that familytree is from 23 miles away from Tonning ...
I wonder if Martin was an Anglicised name and he was born with a different christian name ?
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Martin Molck b. Tonning, Germany c.1835
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 14 December 14 11:48 GMT (UK) »
As it is that close, I think Nordstrand is a possibility. The family may have moved from Nordstrand to Tonning when Martin was young and he may not have realised that he was born in Nordstrand.
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Re: Martin Molck b. Tonning, Germany c.1835
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 31 January 16 17:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I have looked around a bit for Martin Molck and can have found him "her" in Nordfriesland.

The Martin Molck in the 1871 census got married in Dover in 1865 to Marie Bremont born in Calais. He records his father as Peter Molk a mariner. He also says that he is a mariner. According to the 1871 census Mary was born in Calais.

1865 Marriage of Martin Molk and Mary Bremont
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NN62-M17

The original is on FindMyPast. I have it if you want it.



There are many records of Martin Molck also spellt Mölck in the "UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1956" on Ancestry. In many of the records he states his residence or nationality as Calais, but one from 1892 he writes what looks like Toning.


Tönning is in Nordfriesland, Schleswig-Holstein. His mother was born in Tönning and this Marten was born in 1835 in Vollerweik Parish which is about 10 miles away from Tönning Town.
It wasn't until I had finished this reply that I realized Marten here is a female. So I thought I would post this anyway. After searching the name Marten in databases the name only showed up as male. So I don't know what to think about that.... hopefully a mistake.
Peter's profession is recorded as a labourer.

Marten Mölk b.1835 - 1845 Census in Vollerweik
http://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid6506032


Tönning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%B6nning
Eiderstedt County: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiderstedt_%28Amt%29
Vollerweik: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vollerwiek


Worth looking into perhaps.
Cheers.

Ian




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Re: Martin Molck b. Tonning, Germany c.1835
« Reply #8 on: Monday 01 February 16 10:10 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Ian. Great stuff.

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