thanks dathai, Joseph Knight Stratford b.1850-1916(whose mother is mary ferguson) m. Elizabeth flux sterling b. 1858-1912 Cavan & are related to me thr' Josephs father, Thomas Stratford(brother of my Gt Gt Grandfather, Mark Stratford b. 1801-1869 Kilgolagh. What can't wk out is, did my Mark Stratford b. 1801-1869 have 2 sons?(one my Gt Grandfather Thomas Stratford b. 1858, Parish of Drumlummon d. 1939 & other son Mark Stratford(Ians ancestor)b.1859 d.1937 (who would obv be my Gt Grandfathers brother)? would really like your help trying solve this, thanks