O'Toole family mystery

[aghadowey]

There's been a little bit of confusion here and 2 separate O'Toole/Toole families are mixed together

Starting with this posted in reply #16-
Charles TOOLE carpenter/bachelor
died 11 Jan 1908 Kilpedder, Wicklow aged 34? (phthesis)

This Charles is NOT the one married to Catherine Byrne & Elizabeth Barry. Ddeath does say bachelor & informant was sister Bridget O’Toole, Kilpeddar-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1908/05506/4542965.pdf ()
This is the Kilpeddar family (tree NOT complete)-
John Toole (d.bef.1901) m. Honor Classon (c1841-aft.1911)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wicklow/Newcastle_Upper/Kilpedder_Town/1815935/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Newcastle_Upper/Kilpedder_Town/896994/  (9 ch./5 liv.)
1. Bridget Toole (1865 Kilpeddar-aft.1911), teacher
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03575/2317613.pdf
2. Margaret Toole (1868)
3. Catherine Toole (1871-aft.1911)
4. Charles Toole (1873-11 Jan.1908 Kilpedder), carpenter, unm.
5. John Toole (1876)
6. Bartholomew Toole (1878)

[aghadowey]

Now for other Charles O'Toole's family (some of these details already posted)-

Bartholomew O’Toole (c1821-1902), carpenter, m.(24 Nov.1845 Wicklow) Mary Moran (c1826-1909)
Marriage witnesses- Eugene Toole, Mary Deegan
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wicklow/Glencaly/Ashford/1816787/
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1902/05680/4600766.pdf
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014913/005014913_00248.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05453/4526108.pdf
1. Ellen O’Toole (Aug.1846 Wicklow-1925) m.(1871 Rathmines) Richard Manly (c1850 Wicklow-1902)
2. Patrick O’Toole (c1851/c1850 Ashford-1922 Lorne Terrace), carpenter, m.(1873) Bridget Doyle (c1855 Ashford)
3. Simon O’Toole (c1855-1931), carpenter, m.(1877) Julia Hickey; m.(1924) Brigid Lawlor
Bapt.1855
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1877/11150/8084361.pdf
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Rathmichael/Oldconnaught/1315175/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rathmichael/Oldconnaught/93510/
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1924/09160/5313183.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1931/04900/4328111.pdf (informant- sister Kate McLoughlin)
4. Mary O’Toole (1864 Ashford)
5. Charles O’Toole
6. Margaret Mary O’Toole (c1880/c1879) m.(1900) William Kelly (c1881)
7. Catherine O’Toole (c1867-aft.1931) m.(1899) Hugh McLoughlin (c1854-3 Jan.1901 Tawneymoyle, Co.Leitrim), R.I.C. constable
Bapt. 29 Oct.1867
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1899/10390/5783338.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1901/05737/4619407.pdf
8. Christopher O’Toole (Dec.1870 Ashford-1946 Ashford), carpenter, unm.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1871/03312/2214056.pdf (parents- Bartle O’Toole & Mary Moran)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Glenealy/Ashford/897845/
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1946/04610/4222641.pdf

[aghadowey]

Charles O’Toole (c1866 Wicklow-aft.1911), carpenter, son of Bartholomew & Mary, m.(1884 St. Andrews, South Dublin) Catherine/Katie Byrne (c1869 Wicklow-20 July 1902 Wicklow), dau. of Joseph & Margaret; m.2 (1907 Ashford) Elizabeth Barry
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Newcastle_Lower/Ballyvolan__Upper_/896814/
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1907/10108/5677818.pdf
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Newcastle_Lower/Ballyvolan__Upper_/896814/
Note: I think he was likely born before 1864
1. Ellen O’Toole (22 Aug.1886)- died young?
2. Bridget O’Toole (25? Oct.1887 Rathdrum, Wicklow-aft.1902)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1887/02540/1940430.pdf (Bridget)
c. Bartle/Bartholomew O’Toole (12 Apr.1890 Rathdrum, Wickow), carpenter, m.(1914) Esther Devlin- 13 children
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Wicklow_Urban/New_Street/898728/
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1914/09865/5583494.pdf
1919 Petty Sessions- Bartholomew O’Toole, New St.- unjust weights
2001 article on the Mall Ballroom which mentions Mrs. O'Toole and daughter-
https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wicklowpeople/news/farewell-to-the-ballroom-of-romance-27759316.html
   a. Catherine O’Toole (1915) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01380/1567805.pdf (father carpenter)
   b. Elizabeth O’Toole (1916) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1916/01329/1549059.pdf (father carpenter)
   c. Mary O’Toole (1919) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1919/01249/1519242.pdf (father town sergeant)
   d. Bartholomew “Sonny” O’Toole (d.2007), 13th child- family
https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wicklowpeople/news/sonny-otoole-was-a-skilled-carpenter-27736413.html
4. Joseph O’Toole (29 Jan.1893 Rathdrum, Wicklow-aft.1911)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Wicklow_Urban/New_Street/898728/
5. Ellen O’Toole (4 Aug.1895 Rathdrum, Wicklow) m.(1913) James White
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Kingstown_No__3/York_Road__Part_of/99424/ 
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1913/09890/5593483.pdf
6. John O’Toole (17 Sept.1898 Rathdrum, Wicklow-1966) m.(1919 Stockton) Mable Florence Bowron
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Wicklow_Urban/New_Street/898739/
7. Patrick O’Toole (17 Sept.1898 Rathdrum, Wicklow-aft.1911)
8. Owen O’Toole (11 Mar.1900 Rathdrum, Wicklow-aft.1911)
Child of Charles & Elizabeth:
9. James Toole (c1909-aft.1911)

[bandc]

As this thread is about O'Toole's from Wicklow town with Bartholomew's in their family and carpentry connections I am posting a link here to a shop in Wicklow town who is trying to trace descendants of a James O'Toole carpenter who signed his craftmanship in their shop in 1915, perhaps someone reading this might be connected? https://www.facebook.com/groups/wicklow/permalink/3953019348094188/?comment_id=3953316198064503&notif_id=1615563702620660&ref=notif&notif_t=group_comment_reply

[aghadowey]

As this thread is about O'Toole's from Wicklow town with Bartholomew's in their family and carpentry connections I am posting a link here to a shop in Wicklow town who is trying to trace descendants of a James O'Toole carpenter who signed his craftmanship in their shop in 1915, perhaps someone reading this might be connected? https://www.facebook.com/groups/wicklow/permalink/3953019348094188/?comment_id=3953316198064503&notif_id=1615563702620660&ref=notif&notif_t=group_comment_reply

The link seems to be for a private Facebook group which means messages are only visible to members.

[bandc]

Oops sorry, did not realise the link in the last post was private and would not work from here.
The reason I was posting it is because a pharmacy in Wicklow town is trying to track down anyone belonging to a James O'Toole , carpenter who did some work on their building in 1915 and signed the work and they would now like to reunite this signed piece of wood with a descendant of his family. I was hoping some of the O'Toole families that might read this thread could be connected. This is James and his family in the 1911 census http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Wicklow_Urban/Bollarney_North___part_of_/898808/

[MonicaL]

  Could well be this entry here is his www.findagrave.com/memorial/204419772/james-joseph-otoole

Monica

Added: I think it is him. Transcript to his statutory death register entry does show him as a carpenter www.rootschat.com/links/01qer/ (link shrunk as it was coming up too long direct from irishgenealogy.ie).

[bandc]

Monica,
Thanks so much for finding that information about the family grave and posting it. It definitely matches the census information and must be the same family, having the granddaughter's name at the bottom from 2011 should really help in tracing someone connected to the family. I will share this information on the site that posted the original request.
It seems poor James died very young, just 2 years after he carried out the carpentry work on Butlers Medical Hall in Wicklow but it is nice to think that over a century later someone cares enough to try and reunite his signed piece of woodwork with a family member. Thanks Again Margaret