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Deciphering detail on Scottish marriage certificate
« on: Wednesday 03 December 14 21:27 GMT (UK) »
Please can anyone help me to decipher the following from this marriage certificate?
https://flic.kr/p/q1cBAn (link is to my other halves Flickr account)

The maiden name of James Sutherland's mother?
Everything about Elizabeth, Isabella Milne's mother?  ???

I have tried wildcard searches in the Scottish records, but without luck  :(

Thanks so much
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Re: Deciphering detail on Scottish marriage certificate
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 21:31 GMT (UK) »
James Sutherland's mother's maiden name was Forbes.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Deciphering detail on Scottish marriage certificate
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 21:32 GMT (UK) »
Maiden surname of James Sutherland's mother is Forbes.

Elizabeth Thomson, formerly Milne, maiden name ?? possibly begins S.

So she was married three times, it seems.

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Re: Deciphering detail on Scottish marriage certificate
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 21:33 GMT (UK) »
Isabella's mother I think was Elizabeth Thomson, formerly Milne, m[aiden] s[urname] Thorn (dead).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Deciphering detail on Scottish marriage certificate
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 21:35 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth would have been married only twice, would she not?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Deciphering detail on Scottish marriage certificate
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 23:00 GMT (UK) »
My correction at names of witnesses...John ADAM is incorrect, should be Catherine ADAM)

Relevant?
1851 Census   at 9 Charleston Road  Charleston
THOMSON Alexr  48yr  head  b. Aboyne    day labourer
THOMSON Alexr  23yr  head  b. Aboyne    day labourer
THOMSON Gabella  17yr daughter b. Aboyne  housekeeper
MILNE Isabella  11yr lodger  b. Aboyne   scholar
THOMSON Mary 1yr             b. Aboyne  daughter
CHALMERS Alexr  33yr lodger  b. Fintray  woodsawzer

IGI marriage
THOMSON Isabella m.  John ADAM 14 Jun 1856  Charlestown, Aboyne
(witnesses for MILNE - SUTHERLAND certificate are James HAY and Catherine ADAM)

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Re: Deciphering detail on Scottish marriage certificate
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 04 December 14 13:05 GMT (UK) »
This would fit possibly for Isabella with parents in 1841:

William Milne 25 agr. lab.
Elisabeth Milne 20
Isabel Milne 1
Address: Tamachalish, Aboyne and Glentannar

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Re: Deciphering detail on Scottish marriage certificate
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 04 December 14 13:28 GMT (UK) »
Wondering whether Elizabeth's maiden name could have been THAIN, going by this marriage/banns entry here https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTN2-1MX

Trying to find a possible remarriage entry for Elizabeth to a Thomson. Thought Alexander Thomson Snr. with whom Isabel Milne shows as living with in 1851, from the entry posted above by wivenhoe, may have been a possibility but FreeCen show him as married not widowed.

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Re: Deciphering detail on Scottish marriage certificate
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 04 December 14 13:30 GMT (UK) »
You beat me to it Monica...we were posting the same info at the same time!
Isabella's mother's name was Elizabeth Thain
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