Mary Vincent nee Wild .. Where is she? COMPLETED thank you

[New Zealander]

I have reached a brick wall.  Can anyone assist please?

Mary Wild (born c. 1863) was married to Joseph Vincent on 06.04.1880.  They had 5 children between 1881 and 1887 before they went their separate ways.

Mary Vincent appeared to spend a great part of her life in the Timaru / Waimate area in Sth Canterbury.  This from Papers Past and various court appearances from the late 1880's until 1900.

Joseph Vincent died on 23.03.1936 and is interred in the Karoro Cemetery, Greymouth.

I have been unable to locate a death or burial record for Mary Vincent.  Possibly she may have taken the name of Elizabeth Mary Vincent (from St John's Baptism records Christchurch dated 02 Nov 1902). 

I have located a death record  from BDM Online for Elizabeth Mary Vincent on 09.09.1951 aged 84 years.  This would mean a date of birth of 1867.

Can anyone assist please with the cemetery / burial location of this 1951 death.  It does not appear on the Burial Locator or in the Timaru, Waimate or Ashburton Cemeteries.

Any assistance would be much appreciated.

Thank you

Alex G

[emmygee]

Did she re-marry? A Mary Vincent married a William Morris in 1901, (1901/6056)

Good luck with your search.

[Lucy2]

 
I have located a death record  from BDM Online for Elizabeth Mary Vincent on 09.09.1951 aged 84 years.  This would mean a date of birth of 1867.

Can anyone assist please with the cemetery / burial location of this 1951 death. 

Hi Alex

Working from electoral rolls rather than burial locator ... the following lady (who appears to be same), was buried at Karori Cemetery in Wellington.

Karori Cemetery

VINCENT - Elizabeth Mary - aged 84 years
Widow
Buried:   11/7/1951    (11 July 1951)
Roman Catholic -- Plot 177y

http://wellington.govt.nz

   ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

I have been unable to locate a death or burial record for Mary Vincent.  Possibly she may have taken the name of Elizabeth Mary Vincent (from St John's Baptism records Christchurch dated 02 Nov 1902). 

Hi Alex

Just in case we can help further  ... can you explain the significance of the baptism record above ? 

    ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Mary Vincent appeared to spend a great part of her life in the Timaru / Waimate area in Sth Canterbury.  This from Papers Past and various court appearances from the late 1880's until 1900.

Hi Alex

Were Mary's children in her custody, do you know ?

I see her daughter married in Christchurch, and sons were maybe ?? in the Dunedin area at times ?

Also ... is the following another (later) child of Mary ??

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz
"Oamaru Mail" - 28 September 1900 - page 1 -- Waimate Notes

(Mary) VINCENT  v.  (Daniel) LOW - paternity case
... Mary VINCENT married woman, living apart from her husband...

[Child was Alice VINCENT b. 11 July 1900.   Death:  ALICE HOPKINSON - dob - 11 July 1900 -- buried at Temuka Cemetery.  ]

  ~  Lu

[New Zealander]

Greetings All .. thank you for your interest.

The children of Joseph and Mary Vincent did end up in an Industrial School.  From the Christchurch City Library and St John (Church?) Baptism records "Elizabeth Mary Vincent born 11.01.1882, Baptised 02.11.1902, daughter of Joseph , labourer and Elizabeth Mary of Waimate".  Information some years old passed to me by a family member.

I have another record from Papers Past that three of the Vincent children were in the Burnham Industrial School.

Of interest here .. has Mary adopted or taken the extra name of Elizabeth?

Yes there was a paternity case in 1900 Mary Vincent v Daniel Low.  He was a railway employee.  The child was daughter Alice.

I have no knowledge if Mary Vincent ever re-married.  In fact I have no other record of her after the 1900 Paternity case v Daniel Low. 

Joseph Vincent and Mary Vincent appear to have gone their separate ways after the birth of their last child in 1887. 

From Papers Past / Police Gazette there is a report from 07.10.1891 that Joseph Vincent was locked up at Bluff for failing to comply with an order from the Waimate Magistrates Court of 7s 6d a week towards the maintenance of his children.  He had being hiding out on Stewart Island !!  Vincent had last been heard from in October 1890 when discharged from the Invercargill Gaol.

Joseph Vincent died on 23.03.1936 in Greymouth.  His Death Cert records that there was no widow.  I have no knowledge if there was ever a divorce (seems unlikely) between the two or if Mary Vincent ever re-married (given her chequered past possible with Mary I guess).

Alex

[New Zealander]

Hi Lu

To confirm the Karori Cemetery Burial record  in Wellington for Elizabeth Mary Vincent on 11.07.1951.  This can be discounted. 

By searching through all the Vincent burial records for the cemetery I have found her husband "Thos Vincent" buried on 09.06.1936 aged 67 years in the same plot 177Y.

Alex

[minniehaha]

Hi Alex,

Maybe Mary took the name of LOW??

Perhaps the death of a Mary LOW in 1921, aged 57 years could be explored? [Date of birth therefore about 1864].

Minniehaha.

[New Zealander]

Minnie

Thank you for your interest. 

I think you are right that Mary Vincent has re-married or otherwise taken another name.  Looking at the Mary Low you identified I do not believe it would be my person. 

This Mary Low was 57 years of age, a native of Auckland and had been in New Zealand for 40 years at time of death.  This meant she was 17 years of age when she arrived in New Zealand in 1881.  On top of this she is interred with 5 other persons with the same surname .. perhaps a family?

It is believed Mary Vincent arrived in NZ in 1874 at Lyttleton aged 11 years.

Will just have to keep looking.

Alex