what happened to elizabeth white nee whitehouse of wolverhampton in 1840s?

[bradelkington]

Hi again all, I have another brick wall in my family tree which has been bugging me for around 4 years now, I will try to explain what I already know about the family.

Thomas white who was baptised 27 dec 1796 at st peters Wolverhampton to john and sarah white is my fifth great grandfather, he married Elizabeth Whitehouse 9 june 1817 at st peters wolves, batchelor and spinster a witness was a joseph Blakemore who married a mary whitehouse on 17 july 1815 at st peters, I believe this is her sister.

Thomas white and Elizabeth whitehouse had severeal children starting with George  hobbins white in 1818, last child was my fourth great grandfather john white in 1830. Thomas white was a brass founder/caster in 1841 census they was living at temple street Wolverhampton Thomas aged 40 years a brass founder and Elizabeth aged 40 born in county. Then in 1851 Thomas white has a new wife he is living in temple street still aged 53 a brass caster and wife SARAH aged 53 born wednesfield, I cannot find a death for Elizabeth white between 1841 and 1851 or a marriage for Thomas white and this sarah between 1841 and 1851.


Another clue on the family is a marriage I found on freereg 

27 December 1841 at st George Wolverhampton

George WHITEHOUSE, occupation a jappaner of st George district, father Thomas whitehouse a BRASSFOUNDER (same as Elizabeth whitehouses husband Thomas white) and to top that off Thomas white is a witness? I cannot find this George whitehouse or his father Thomas the brassfounder in census records?

Thomas white died in 1854 aged 56

please help I would be so happy to crack this

regards dave

[groom]

Have you eliminated these two deaths?

Deaths Dec 1847   
White    Elizabeth        Wolverhampton &c    17   283      

Deaths Sep 1848   
WHITE    Elizabeth        Wolverhampton    17   238    

[Milliepede]

I cannot find a death for Elizabeth white between 1841 and 1851

There are 3 in Wolverhampton between 1841/1851 - have you ruled them all out?

Sorry last one was post census, the two groom has listed above 

[groom]

Might be worth looking at these two marriages as well. Maybe they weren't married in 1851 but said they were and then married later.

Marriages Sep 1852   
White    Thomas        Wolverhampton    6b   520   on same page Sarah Bailey 
WHITE    Thomas        Wolverhampton    6b   451  on same page Sarah Lester

Did Sarah and Thomas have any children, if so their birth certificate will give their mother's maiden name?

[Milliepede]

Sarah is 53 in 1851 so unlikely they had children.  If they did marry in 1852 maybe Elizabeth hadn't died before 1851 census ie was the late 1851 death?

Have we checked Elizabeth isn't on her own somewhere in 1851 just in case he had simply left her?

[bradelkington]

the two deaths for 1847 and 1848 I have eliminated the one in 1848 was 25 sept 1848 1 day old, the 1847 was a 2 year old

The 1852 marriage isn't him its to Eleanor weaver occupation a  groom, my Thomas white was living in same address in 1851 as what he was in 1841 and his occupation stayed the same from 1818-his death in 1854 :s

I cannot find Elizabeth whitehouse/white in 1851 ether
very confusing

[bradelkington]

sorry I appoligise ive just noticed another marriage that you mean in q3 to ethier caroline jukes or sarah lester , maybe I should order it, I cannot find this marriage on freereg or findmy past could it be a registry office marriage?

[bradelkington]

interesting ive found a sarah lester in 1841 aged 40 years a widow in Wolverhampton?!! thanks so much hopefully this is the right marriage ! she has a Daniel cresswell aged 15 living with her, theres a marriage of a William lester and sarah cresswell in 1830

[Milliepede]

Hopefully we can pair up the couples from that marriage in census to see who belongs to who.

Richard Burgoin is the other groom.  If we can find him with a wife Caroline or Sarah it might help.

Richard married Sarah Lester 17 August 1852.