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Taylor or Gentile
« on: Saturday 02 July 05 21:26 BST (UK) »

My grandfather Girolomo gentile married Annie Taylor in Leeds 1892 under the name of John Taylor. I understand they lived in Dewsbury where my grandfather was an Italian Street Musician. Annie's father was James Taylor Blacksmith (deceased at the time of marriage.

In July 1892 they had a baby girl born in Dewsbury which they called Mary Gentile Taylor. In 1912 she changed her name to Maria Gentili and married Joseph Diponio in Chester.

Girolomo gentile (John Taylor) and Annie Taylor had 3 other children by the marriage, Eleanor born 1906 Dewsbury. Francis born 1898 Chester and Rose born and died in 1901 Chester.

I have been able to trace Mary's (Maria's) life, but I cant find where Eleanor and Francis went when Girolomo and Annie parted betwean 1906 and 1910.

Girolomo met my grandmother and went to live in Shrewsbury and then in Oswestry, later returning back to Chester where he died in 1929.

Any information would be appreciated.

George Woodworth
Researching: Gentile - Yorkshire, Shrewsbury, Oswestry Chester.  Woodworth - Handbridge Chester. Taylor - Yorkshire and Chester. Ellis - Wrexham. Wraight - Margate Kent

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Re: Taylor or Gentile
« Reply #1 on: Monday 17 April 06 10:22 BST (UK) »
Hi George

Sorry we haven't been able to help you so far on this one. 

Are you still looking for this information?

Look forward to hearing from you.

Best wishes 

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Re: Taylor or Gentile
« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 April 06 14:29 BST (UK) »

Hi Ticker,

Yes I am still looking for this information. The children or the grandchildren of Eleanor and Francis Gentile or Taylor whichever name they chose to go by, could have information on my Italian ancestors.

Best wishes

George
Researching: Gentile - Yorkshire, Shrewsbury, Oswestry Chester.  Woodworth - Handbridge Chester. Taylor - Yorkshire and Chester. Ellis - Wrexham. Wraight - Margate Kent

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Re: Taylor or Gentile
« Reply #3 on: Monday 17 April 06 15:36 BST (UK) »
hello George,

Frances (rather than Francis!) was registered as GENTILE:

GRO Births Mar Qtr 1898  (from BMD)
GENTILE  Frances   
Chester  8a 411

If this is correct and she was a girl, could this be her marriage?!:

Marriage MAR Qtr 1921  (from BMD)
GENTILE Francesca
O'CONNOR Roderick
W.Derby 8b 750
[W.Derby is Liverpool]

I expect you have this other marriage, in the same year:

Marriage JUN Qtr 1921  (from BMD)
GENTILE Girolmo
WOOD Elizabeth
Oswestry 6a 1459

One more, which may not be related but is in Chester:

Marriage SEP Qtr 1931 (from BMD)
GENTILE Antonio
GROURKE Agnes
Chester 8a 1113

Hugh in Sheffield
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Re: Taylor or Gentile
« Reply #4 on: Monday 17 April 06 20:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Hugh

Thanks for the information.

Yes Francis or Frances was born in Chester 1898. She could have used the Italian  version, Francesca to get married as did her sister. She  was registered as Mary and Married Joseph Diponio as Maria Gentili in 1912. the birth certificate is well worth following up to see if my Grandfather Girolomo Gentile is named on the certificate as her father.

The marriage in 1921, was the belated second marriage of my Grandfather and Grandmother.

The marriage in 1931 GENTILE Antonio
GROURKE Agnes are my Uncle and Aunt.

Thanks for that Hugh it has been very helpful, if its the same Francis Frances then it puts anther link in the chain.

Best wishes
 George
Researching: Gentile - Yorkshire, Shrewsbury, Oswestry Chester.  Woodworth - Handbridge Chester. Taylor - Yorkshire and Chester. Ellis - Wrexham. Wraight - Margate Kent

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Re: Taylor or Gentile
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 24 September 13 21:36 BST (UK) »
Hi George,
you don't happen to know who Antonios father is do you?

'The marriage in 1931 GENTILE Antonio
GROURKE Agnes are my Uncle and Aunt.'

I'm doing a tree for his grandson who's flying in from Rome later this week.

regards

Shep.

Shepherd, Moran, Bath, Keating, Putt - Chester
Trussell - Flint / West Bromwich
Hughes - Flint / Oakenholt
Challinor / Chaloner - Chester / Wirral / Hawarden / Holt
Reynolds - Chester
Edwards - Rossett / Pulford
Strange - Chester / Shropshire
Bayliss - Rossett / Allington / Pulford

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Re: Taylor or Gentile
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 September 13 23:45 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Shep,
Yes, he was my Grandfather, Girolomo Gentile, AkA Taylor. My mother was Antonio Gentile's sister.
George
Researching: Gentile - Yorkshire, Shrewsbury, Oswestry Chester.  Woodworth - Handbridge Chester. Taylor - Yorkshire and Chester. Ellis - Wrexham. Wraight - Margate Kent

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Re: Taylor or Gentile
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 25 September 13 20:22 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for that George.

I'm not sure how much your cousin Geoff knows about his ancestry but I think it's ironic that his life path has taken a Chester born boy back to the country of his great grandfather where he has lived for many years now.
Shepherd, Moran, Bath, Keating, Putt - Chester
Trussell - Flint / West Bromwich
Hughes - Flint / Oakenholt
Challinor / Chaloner - Chester / Wirral / Hawarden / Holt
Reynolds - Chester
Edwards - Rossett / Pulford
Strange - Chester / Shropshire
Bayliss - Rossett / Allington / Pulford