Lookup Required: "British Army in Australia" - SUGDEN

[Miss May]

Hope someone here can help.

Looking for William Sugden in "The British Army in Australia" by James Hugh Donohoe.

I'm not local to look it up from NSWSL where I know there is a copy.

Can anyone help? I need any info plus the full reference including page number.

Thanks in advance

MM

[maz591]

May,

I would try the "Ask a librarian service" at the library http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/services/ask/index.html  They may be able to help.

Marion

[clancam37]

Hi Miss May,
The Tasmanian State Library (Hobart)
Barry
 has a copy -- I could look for William Sugden when I next visit - Monday next.
Regards

Hope someone here can help.

Looking for William Sugden in "The British Army in Australia" by James Hugh Donohoe.

I'm not local to look it up from NSWSL where I know there is a copy.

Can anyone help? I need any info plus the full reference including page number.

Thanks in advance

MM

[~MERLIN~]

Looking for William Sugden in "The British Army in Australia" by James Hugh Donohoe.
Can anyone help? I need any info plus the full reference including page number.

I have a copy & there is no William SUGDEN listed in the book.

There is George SUGDEN & Tempas SUGDEN 1/4th Kings Own Regiment of Foot [aka 1/4th Royal Lancaster (Kings Own)1831-1837].

You do realise that this book is an index to records & where you may locate further details.

[majm]

I have checked my copy too, and no sighting for William SUGDEN

Cheers,  JM

[Miss May]

Hello Everyone

Thanks for all your useful suggestions and offer to look up - very kind Barry, thank you.

I've contacted the Librarian at NSWSL, but I'm a bit mystified now as I've been given this quoted paragraph (below) for an entry for William SUGDEN:

 "Served in 19th Foot Regiment, and 45th Foot Regiment before joining the Royal New South Wales Veterans Corp RNSWVC. Soldier’s pension awarded from Chelsea 4 June 1823. Residence NSW. WO120 Vol 69 page 191 Index 4558 PRO Kew." 

All the info is correct, but I'd been told it came from "The British Army in Australia", and need the exact citation to reference it properly.

Are there any other such publications that contain this sort of brief info that it could have come from?

I'm overseas so I don't have access to the usual local sources.

Kind regards
MM

[KGarrad]

"WO120" is a reference to The National Archives, UK:

Reference:   WO 120
Title:    Royal Hospital, Chelsea: Regimental Registers of Pensioners
Description:    

Registers of pensioners of the Royal Hospital Chelsea arranged by the regiments in which they last served. Registers of men receiving pensions between 1845 and 1854 (with additions to 1857) only give the date of the award of the pension, rate of pension and district in which the man received his pension. From about 1812 dates of death have been noted and in the last series these dates extend to 1877.

Physical description:    70 volume(s)
Access conditions:    Available in microform only

[majm]

Was your chap William Johnson SUGDEN ?

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~garter1/william%20sugden.htm 
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~garter1/sudgen%20story.htm


There's also the NSW State Records Office, with many of its indexes readily available online.   

There's William J SUGDEN and William SUGDEN indexed from the NSW 1841 Census remnants, noting that Victoria was not hived off from NSW until 1851.

http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/keyname.aspx

Cheers,  JM

[Miss May]

Hi JM

My chap was definitively not William Johnson Sugden. That chap arrived in Tasmania in 1830s but ended up Chief and Police in Melbourne and later a publican and died in 1862. There is some research published online that confuses WJ Sugden and my William. They are unrelated. There is also a convict by the same name - but not him either.

I've obtained everything there is in the NSW Records and lots from Kew for my chap who was in the NSW Veterans Company formed in 1826 and disbanded in 1829. He enlisted at Chelsea 3 Jan 1826 after responding to advertisements to re-enlist. Only men under the age of 50 years and with both thumbs could apply...!!

Likely to have arrived on Orpheus in Sept 1826.

The 1841 Census shows William living at Veteran's Flats nr Goulburn.

Thanks for looking

MM