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Re: Do you have corkcutter ancestors?
« Reply #135 on: Wednesday 25 October 06 20:52 BST (UK) »
I'm amazed at how many cork cutters there seem to have been!

In tracing back my family tree I have found my g g g grandfather George Kemp (born in Bethnal Green 1811) was a cork cutter. After he married he went to Hull for some years and then to Portsmouth where he settled. He died in 1895 - we think in the Workhouse!

His son, Joseph Paxton Kemp Born 1853 in Portsmouth) was a cork cutter as was another son Charles Kemp (born 1855 in Portsmouth.)

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Re: Do you have corkcutter ancestors?
« Reply #136 on: Sunday 05 November 06 10:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cheryl,

I have a John Samuel Robinson, b 1853 Bethnal Green East London living in Bethnal Green in 1881 being employed as a cork cutter. On the 1891 census he, and family, have moved to 6 Lockhurst Road Hackney East London. He is still employed as  a cork cutter as is his 20 year old son, also called John (b.1871 Bethnal Green).
John Samuel's father, who was also a John ( not very imaginative with names my lot) who was b 1825 was employed as a tin plate worker so it is not as though John Samuel was following his father.

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Re: Do you have corkcutter ancestors?
« Reply #137 on: Monday 06 November 06 16:04 GMT (UK) »
Hello, thanks for the corkcutter information.  Your ancestors are now being added to the index. There are already 16 Robinsons on the index though spread all over England and none are obviously connected to you.  However there are some London-based ones at around the correct time who might be linked to your family.

As there are rather a lot of Robinsons, I suggest you consult the index yourself when it comes online which should be very shortly as it is nearly up and running.  I will let you know when it is available.
It will also contain interesting (I hope) information about the trade of corkcutting.

Thanks again

Cheryl
Ball(s), Mewett, Keegan, Stoner, Newman,
Thompson, Rolfe,Cullum, Bayley (Bailey)
Trade of CORKCUTTING

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Re: Do you have corkcutter ancestors?
« Reply #138 on: Friday 17 November 06 16:45 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

I have been helping a friend to research her father's family who were cork cutters. The surname is MARTIN.

This is his family from the 1881 Census:
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I found another Robert Martin, age 54 on the 1871 Census,
who was also born in St. George in the East, and on this census he was living in St. George in the East, Tower Hamlet.  He appears as Robert J. Martin in 1851.

I contacted a descendant of his daughter Caroline, and she confirmed that she has the marriage certificate of her Robert (father of Caroline) to his wife Eliza, and his father was also Robert Martin.

She located a cork cutter Robert Martin and wife Ann, both age 50, on the 1841 Census at St. Mary Whitechapel.
These would appear to be the parents of Richard and Robert.

In 1861, Richard Martin and family were living in St. Paul's, Greenwich, Deptford, and they were still there in 1871.

I have not found that any of Richard's children continued the family trade of cork cutting, but I see an Alfred J. Martin, age 29, living next door to Robert, on the 1871 Census.
He was born St. George in the East.

In checking the 1851 Census for Robert and Eliza, I see that they had an 8 year old son named Alfred R. Martin.

This would not be the first time I have seen two different middle initials given separately, for another Alfred Martin within this same family.

If anyone is interested in more census information, please let me know.

I am trying to trace a grandson of Richard Martin, by the name of Alfred Stennett Martin (from his birth certificate) who was born in 1885 at Peckham.
He is shown on the 1891 Census as Alfred H. Martin, living in the parish of Camberwell, village of Peckham with his family.

His last known whereabouts was reportedly at Grove Farm, West Molesey (near Esher) where he was sent to work for a Mr. Edward Ferris. He was 14 years old at the time.
Mr. Ferris has been located on a directory for 1913, living in Ivy Cottage at West Molesey, but there is no trace of Alfred Stennett Martin in that area.

Any suggestions as to how he might be located would be most welcome.

Thanks,
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Re: Do you have corkcutter ancestors?
« Reply #139 on: Saturday 18 November 06 07:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all that.  I have brought the index up to date and will stay in touch about release of my website which will include the index and lots of information about corkcutting generally.

Cheryl
Ball(s), Mewett, Keegan, Stoner, Newman,
Thompson, Rolfe,Cullum, Bayley (Bailey)
Trade of CORKCUTTING

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Re: Do you have corkcutter ancestors?
« Reply #140 on: Saturday 18 November 06 12:37 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Cheryl.   

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Re: Do you have corkcutter ancestors?
« Reply #141 on: Sunday 19 November 06 07:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Corkcutter,
   I have just came across this thread, and have a number of Cork Cutters in my family all from Camberwell. They are the Newham family, and there names are :

Francis Newham (b1829, d1883), is listed on the 1871 census and the Birth Certificate of his son Frederick, as a Cork Cutter. I have a copy of is business card showing his address as 29 Regent Street, Surrey
Francis Thomas Newham (b1850, d1904) [son of above Francis], i have a copy of his apprenticeship papers from 1865 to a John Shriving of No1 John Street, Roupell Street in Surrey. He was a Cork cutter until he died in 1904.
Thomas Henry Newham (b1858, d 1897) [son of above Francis], listed as a cork cutter on the 1881, 1891 & 1901 census.
James Newham (b1863, d?) [son of above Francis], listed as a cork cutter on the 1881, 1891 & 1901 census.
Thomas F Newham (b1880, d ?)  [son of above Thomas Henry], listed as a cork cutter on the 1901 Census.

  I believe that you may have this family already from another relative (Sarah Newham), who had emailed you. if you would like to see a copy of the apprenticeship papers just PM me.

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Newham - Surrey
Wellington - Dagenham, Essex
Camp - South Essex
Wren - Essex
Livermore - Essex
Wane - Essex
Fisk - Essex / Suffolk
Bailey/Bayley - Sussex
Newton - Sussex
Funnell - Sussex
Streeter - Sussex
Coates - Sussex
Maisey - Surrey

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Re: Do you have corkcutter ancestors?
« Reply #142 on: Sunday 19 November 06 08:49 GMT (UK) »
Dear Richard,

Thank you very much for your information.  Sarah had indeed given me most of thefamily line (plus a copy of the apprenticeship indenture) but Your information allowsmeto add a few more details and I didn't have Thomas F. Newham at all.

I suppose it is too much to hope that the business card has any sort of illustration on it?

My website giving a lot of info. about corkcutting will be accessible soon and I will let you know when it is ready.

Best wishes

Cheryl
Ball(s), Mewett, Keegan, Stoner, Newman,
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Trade of CORKCUTTING

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Re: Do you have corkcutter ancestors?
« Reply #143 on: Sunday 19 November 06 11:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cheryl,
   Im afraid it does not contain any Illistration.



Richard
Sellens - Sussex
Newham - Surrey
Wellington - Dagenham, Essex
Camp - South Essex
Wren - Essex
Livermore - Essex
Wane - Essex
Fisk - Essex / Suffolk
Bailey/Bayley - Sussex
Newton - Sussex
Funnell - Sussex
Streeter - Sussex
Coates - Sussex
Maisey - Surrey