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cannot find my grandfather Arthur McInnes Perth WA
« on: Wednesday 26 November 14 13:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi i have a grandfather Arthur McInnes born (kent uk?) on my dads birth certificate certificate it says he was 41 in 1925 ,but on his death certificate it says he died in 1955 perth western australia.
Mother and father listed as elizabeth and arthur T.but ther is no record of him anywhere can anybody help please.Regards helen
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Re: cannot find my grandfather
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 26 November 14 14:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Helen, and welcome to Rootschat!

If the age given on the birth certificate and death certificate don't line up, that's not unusual.
Do you have the full death certificate?  (There should be quite a lot of info on a WA certificate, I think).
Who was his wife? Was she born in Australia?

The next obvious bit of info to track down would be his marriage, if one exists. Because the information there should be given by him directly, it might be more reliable than that on the death certificate.

I don't see an obvious entry for him in WWI in Australia, so perhaps he was in UK forces and came over after the war?
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Re: cannot find my grandfather
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 26 November 14 14:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Helen,
 I'm a bit confused with what you have written (not difficult at my age  :))
Was it Arthur McInnes who was 41 in 1925 and whose mother and father are listed as Elizabeth and Arthur T?
Thanks
Paula
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Re: cannot find my grandfather
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 26 November 14 14:38 GMT (UK) »
Arthur McInnes   Male   79   Arthur T   Elizabeth   1955

From the online index.



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Re: cannot find my grandfather
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 26 November 14 15:09 GMT (UK) »
Arthur McInnes   Male   79   Arthur T   Elizabeth   1955

From the online index

Index of . . .. What? Birth, marriage death? What are the headings above the different columns you have quoted from?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: cannot find my grandfather
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 26 November 14 15:11 GMT (UK) »
Presumably that is the WA index of deaths.

Aged 41 in 1925 gives birthdate c1884.

Aged 79 in 1955 gives birthdate c1876.

So a big range.  I wonder what is the basis for his expected birthplace of Kent/UK?

P.S. Welcome Helen from me too :)
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: cannot find my grandfather
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 26 November 14 15:17 GMT (UK) »
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on his death certificate it says he died in 1955 perth western australia.
Mother and father listed as elizabeth and arthur T.

Yes , sorry should have said his age at death was 79.


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Re: cannot find my grandfather
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 26 November 14 16:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone thank you all i shall try again.
My father was Keith Mcinnes born 24th feb 1925 in Perth W.A
on his birth cert it reads as follows: Father (my grandfather)Arthur McInnes storekeeper 42 years born Kent England.
Mother (my grandmother :Ellen May Cox born: Oxford, England.
Married 15th jan 1912 london,England.(no listings of this marriage ever taken place)
This is where the problem comes in.On Arthurs death cert it reads that he died 1955 at the age of 79,his Father was Arthur T and mother was Elizabeth.
I dont have the worldwide memembership so i can't check if there is anymore info on his death cert.
I have looked up 1884 and 1876 for arthur worldwide but cant find him,also no marriage listed for Arthur and Ellen may Cox.
I dont think they married in england as my grandmother is listed as being on the Orsover as a single person when she migrated to Perth western Australia.
I hope this explains it better for you all and can help.Kind Regards,Helen
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 26 November 14 16:55 GMT (UK) »
There is no birth on the indexes for an Arthur McInnes in Kent around 1883. The nearest is an Arthur S in 1881 in Islington, but later censuses show his parents not to be an Arthur and Elizabeth.

Even widening the search to 10 years either way does not produce an Arthur McInnes born in Kent.

Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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