Thanks shaun j & Westmoreland. I could not find in 1881 either. A possible ref to Ireland in 1871 and find 2 possibles in 1861 (although now you have said his father was Michael it is more likely only 1 ) and 1 in British army service record also refs Ireland.
But, think as advised earlier I will have to get marriage certificate to see parent info. and move forward from that. Otherwise too many wrong turnings possible !
