John/Jane Owen Of Chirk.

[wrjones]

I'm looking for a marriage of a John Owen to a Jane in the Chirk area sometime at least before 1828/9.Their two sons of interest are James baptised Chirk 17/05/1829,parents said to be John(Collier) and Jane of Halton.The other son is Edward baptised at Chirk 24/01/1830,parents John(Collier) and Jane of Brynkynaillt.

James I believe was to marry an Ann Parish at Ruabon in 1852.Edward is shown after 1861 as married to an Eliza and shown to have a son John born c 1859 in Chirk.This John Owen features in my Tree,though by very much a roundabout way I have contacted descendants of the James in the last day or two.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[Gadget]

Names are familiar to me, WR, give me a bit and I'll get out my Chirk stuff and my trees 


Gadget

[wrjones]

Thanks Gadget.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[Gadget]

I see from the 1841, that they were both born 1796 +/- 5 - in 1851, Jane, now a widow,  is down as born Chirk, aged 57 (so born circa 1793 - can't find a suitable baptism)

This is the nearest I can get for a marriage:

Ruabon, 17 Dec 1814
John Johns and Jane Davies, Jane signed, John made his mark.  Witnesses: William Lloyd and Ann Davies

I'm not all that happy with this so will have a better look later - need to follow this couple up and/or  get some earlier births of children.


Gadget

[wrjones]

Thanks Gadget.Looking through the names on GR its probable that the John Owen was born in Chirk in 1794.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[Gadget]

Just checked my Par(r) ish tree and  Ann Parish, who married James 1852, Ruabon is in it. They had:

Edward, Francis, Ellis

She would be a distant cousin* - not worked out quite but daughter of John Parish and Elizabeth Roberts - it's quite wide as they all had many offspring down the generations, including the infamous one 

Back later 


* I think she's a first cousin 3 or 4 times removed

[wrjones]

Thanks Gadget.Now possibly the earliest baptism for a child of these parents is a Francis on 18/01/1818 to parents John(Collier) and Jane of Chirk Green.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[wrjones]

The James baptised in 1829 could be slightly deceptive.By all accounts he may well have been born in 1827.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[Gadget]

No marriage of a John Owen(s)  to a Jane in Chirk 1813- 1837, so either they married elsewhere or they didn't marry. The Ruabon one now looks a strong possible.