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The Horwoods, Stamford Hill (Property)
« on: Sunday 23 November 14 21:12 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

I've recently come across some paperwork related to an uncle who moved to London around 1885. A letter he wrote back to Cheadle in 1887 has a letterhead reading:

The Harwoods,
Stamford Hill,
London, N.

I wondered if anyone had any information relating to 'The Horwoods' ?

Regards
Mike
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Re: The Horwoods, Stamford Hill (Property)
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 November 14 21:16 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

I've recently come across some paperwork related to an uncle who moved to London around 1885. A letter he wrote back to Cheadle in 1887 has a letterhead reading:

The Harwoods,
Stamford Hill,
London, N.

I wondered if anyone had any information relating to 'The Horwoods' ?

Regards
Mike

Hi Mike, would love to help, details of your uncle c 1881/1891 may help us?

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Re: The Horwoods, Stamford Hill (Property)
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 November 14 21:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, as I live approximately 5 miles away from Stamford Hill, this address in 1891 could well be it:-

Horwoods
St Ann's Road, Tottenham
Census ref RG12/1076/94/9

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Re: The Horwoods, Stamford Hill (Property)
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 November 14 21:49 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the address suggestion, it certainly sounds possible.

Robert Plant (1840-1902)

Robert was born in Cheadle (Staffordshire) into a mining family and aged 23 took over the family colliery business following the death of his father and short spell working with his eldest brother James (my direct ancestor). A few years later he established a larger colliery company and set about becoming a big fish in a little pond! He was very successful for about a decade then around 1876 he invested a small fortune into a colliery that failed heavily. He was able to keep himself afloat through creditors but in 1881, after investing in a Cheadle railway scheme, he was was declared bankrupt and the majority of his assets were seized.

It's a little unclear as to why and how, but his entire family move with him to London. Letters to the local newspaper show a different address nearly every time which I've always found strange. The Stamford Hill address was a new one to me and was contained in a bundle of documents related to a colliery here in Cheadle and also a new (and ultimately successful) railway scheme, although like many small lines now long gone.

He would eventually end up in Fulham where he died having contracted TB. His body was returned to Cheadle using the railway he helped create.

I'm not sure if that's of any use, but it was fun to write!

Mike
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Re: The Horwoods, Stamford Hill (Property)
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 November 14 22:05 GMT (UK) »
 ;D That 1891 address looks good as I see Robert and family are in Ferme Park Road, Hornsey in 1891 approx 2 miles from "Horwood"
Census ref RG12/1064/11/19
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Re: The Horwoods, Stamford Hill (Property)
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 23 November 14 22:20 GMT (UK) »

Thank you very much :)

I don't actually think I'd tracked him down on the 1891 census. Given it's proximity to Finsbury Park the family must have stayed in that area a while. Their son Alphonso drowned in the river there in 1887, that was the first exact date I had for them in London.
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Re: The Horwoods, Stamford Hill (Property)
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 23 November 14 22:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi again for your files:-

1891 census

Robert Plant 51 occ Colliery Proprietor
Martha 51
Hannah M 29
Sarah E 20
Edward J R 18
Gertrude E 17
William B 13
Henry J 11( looking at 1901 Henry V)
Kate J 9 ( Violet K in 1901)
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PS in 1901 Henry V Plant 22 occ Builders Clerk b Cheadle is a boarder with a Jonathon F Saunders 32 occ Railway Inspector of building works at 311, Holloway Road, Islington
Census ref RG13/173/40/27

PPS I see when Henry Victor Plant marries on 25th June 1908 St Dionus Church Fulham to Florence Edith French, Robert Plant occ Engineer is deceased.
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Re: The Horwoods, Stamford Hill (Property)
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 25 November 14 14:45 GMT (UK) »
Marriage certificate shows V = Vincent not Victor.

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Re: The Horwoods, Stamford Hill (Property)
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 25 November 14 14:51 GMT (UK) »
Marriage certificate shows V = Vincent not Victor.

Jennifer

Getting my Victor's mixed up with my Vincent 's!

I am sure it is him though?

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