Italian Research

[steve62]

Mixedupmob,
Got a reply. They require a copy of my Identity Card and the reason for wanting these certificates. Did tell them, but evidently not sufficient. Not sending my ID as it has my Fiscal Code. With that they can see all my financial info. Bank, property, any loans or mortgages, ownership of cars, boats etc, etc.
Thats private.
Sorry this time cannot help.

Steve

[mikegunnill]

Dear Steve62

Grateful for your expert local help, please?

I have a wedding by a German national, Uwe Klaus Dietrich Johnson 1934-1984 in Rome, Italy on February 27th 1962 to Elisabeth Schmidt. She had recently escaped from East Germany. I think from memory there are a lots of areas within Rome but all I know is that Johnson had a scholarship with Villa Massimo, in Rome. I understand this is a German Cultural College at Marjo di Villa Massimo, 00161, Roma RM Italy. He may have lived nearby.

I am searching for extra detail on the wedding, perhaps who was present etc.. I have no birth detail on Elisabeth except she was born in Schwerin. Hoping an age, would be listed on the official details.

I wondered if you could help or at least point me in the right direction.  The above is all I know, except that Eliabeth Johnson divorced her husband in 1978, I think in Germany. 

I would welcome any comments.

Thank you

Mike

[steve62]

Hi Mike,
A little needle in a haystack.
There are 15 Comune (Town Halls) in Rome.  In which one were they married?
The MC would give their DOB, but not who was present.  You would need a Church Record for that.
It is possible, maybe, that the German Cultural College in "Largo di Villa Massimo"  have some details about them in their records.

Sorry much help to you.

Steve

[mikegunnill]

Steve62

Thank you for your kind reply.  I have tried the Villa Massimo. They confirmed he was resident with them for 1962 but they have no further records on his marriage. It was not conducted within the Villa Massimo however. I have emailed the Uwe Johnson Research Centre in Germany but I don't expect to get a reply!

If he got married close to the Villa Massimo, which seems likely would that narrow the search?

regards

Mike

[mixedupmob]

Hi Steve

Thank you for trying but I fully understand the need to keep private things private.

Maybe those certificates fall into the Italian privacy rules time-frame in which they only supply to family. In Australia most states require full ID from the person applying for births less than 100 years ago; marriages 60 years ago and deaths 30 years ago.

R.

[steve62]

Mike,
Sorry just read your message.
Yes I will have a look to see in which "Municipio" we find Largo Villa Massimo.


Steve

[mikegunnill]

Steve62

I would be grateful. Thank you


Mike

[mixedupmob]

Steve

Do you think you can try for another Tirano marriage registration for me please - see how you go.

Marriage is between Maria Ester Divitini and Pietro Gandini, date looks to be 3 June 1944 (see attached for confirmation).

I would like to know Pietro's parents if possible as one of Maria's older sisters looks like she also married a Pietro Gandini and I am wondering if it is the same person.

Thanks for your help.

R.

[steve62]

mixedupmob,
Oooh! Got a reply this morning. "Please refer to our previous e-mail".   Could be privacy laws, although this is the first time I have come across a case like this. Never had problems in the past. Only once was I asked to pay for certificates. Seems every "Comune" has their own rules.

Steve🤔