Italian Research

[escollay]

Hi all

Sorry for the late reply, and thanks for your help. I have an approximate DOB of 1830s for my man.... which only adds to the mysterty 

Thanks Anyway!

[steve62]

dathai,
Just got a reply from the Archives.
They have searched between the years 1837 and 1843 and there are no documents relating to Vincenzo (Vincent) PACELLI or his wife  Maria Rosa (Mary Rose) SOVINO.

Presumebly they were born somewhere else, but where?

Steve

[dathai]

Steve
        Many thank's for your efforts on my behalf ,i consider myself very lucky to have got back as far as i have with this family so i am not bitterly disappointed by the outcome.
You are an inspiration to the rest of us genealogists so keep up the good work.

Thank you

Dathai

[steve62]

Dathai
You are very welcome and am sorry cannot help. 

Steve

[steve62]

q98,
Just arrived  copy of the BC for Martino VITALI and attach a copy here.  Have not translated it as it is easy to understand.  Unfortunately as in most cases I have found now is that they send a copy of a document and not a copy of the actual register.  That would have annotations attached.  Saving money or quickness ?  This BC is probally not telling you anything other than confirming where and when he was born.
In regard to the rest of your posting -  unless they have a specific place and a specific date, 00/00/000it is unlikely they will check.  Very rarely have I been successful with just a year and a "maybe place".

Afraid I have not been much help this time round.

Steve
PS. Just found out file is too large.  Please send me a PM with your e-mail.

[steve62]

GENERAL NOTE  to all waiting for me to reply.

No one has been forgotten and where needed follow up requests have been sent.
The unfortunate point is that there is very little on the internet.  Paying sites seem to be more about the UK/USA/CANADA and very little on other countries, well Italy.
So folks is back in time writing to State Archives, Diocesan Archives, Local Churches, Local Town Halls etc.  All takes time hoping some kind soul will take time to look.
However I was amazed at one reply I got some time ago.  After writing here and there and eventually to the Diocesan Archives I received a reply many months afterwards.  A little old priest took the time to go in the cellar and dust off old registers to find the info I required.
In the end I am here and will always try and help where I can.

Steve

[Wred]

Hi Steve

Looking for location of birth information for Francesco Cavaciuti born December 1888 in village of Rusteghini, Morfasso. Also looking for his marriage to Maria Cavaciuti between 1911 and 1918 also in Rusteghini. You might have guessed that most of village have same surname but Francesco's mother was probablly a Casali and family names are Emilio, Monica, Antonia and Andrew.

Thank you for your offer of help.

Wendy

[steve62]

Hi Wendy,
There is no e-mail address for the general public unless you are resident in Morfasso.
Tomorrow will send a fax.

Steve

[kjmck]

Hi Steve,

This seems a long shot as I don't have much info but here goes.

Am looking for a John Guarnieri/Guinari/Guarniere. He came over from Italy to London sometime between 1851 - 1861, he then moved to Manchester in England with his wife and family.

Here he is in 1861 as a musician

Name:   John Guarniere
Age:   28
Estimated birth year:   1833
Relation:   Boarder
Gender:   Male
Where born:   Italy
Civil Parish:   Holborn St Andrew
County/Island:   Middlesex
Country:   England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:   
.
Registration district:   Holborn
Sub-registration district:   St Andrew Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel:   5
Neighbors:   View others on page
Household schedule number:   62
Piece:   185
Folio:   105
Page Number:   10
Household Members:   
Name   Age
Louis Bassino   40
Angel Briank   35
Petro Masochi   30
John Insano   28
Bernardo Armack   35
Gaspar Bassine   32
Joseph Bassino   12
Louis Scartazza   53
John Meske   43
John Guarniere   28
Dominque Lurlin   22
Dominque Masochi   15
Antoine Briante   46
John Cassali   42
Dominque Bellini   18

and here he is in 1881 (After this we believe he left his family and went to Ireland and no one heard from him again)

Name:   John Guinari
Age:   49
Estimated birth year:   abt 1832
Relationship to Head:   Head
Spouse:   Ellen Guinari
Gender:   Male
Where born:   (F), Italy
Civil Parish:   Manchester
County/Island:   Lancashire
Country:   England
Street address:   6 Chapel Court
Marital Status:   Married
Education:
Employment status:   
.
Occupation:   Street Musician
Registration district:   Manchester
Sub registration district:   Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel:   5
Neighbors:   View others on page
Piece:   3978
Folio:   75
Page Number:   22
Household Members:   
Name   Age
John Guinari   49
Ellen Guinari   36
Rosina Guinari   9
Antonio Guinari   7
(not transcribed)   
Jane Green   26
James Green   2

If you're able to maybe shed some light on the Surname and it's origins, or even anything about John (unsure what the Italian for John is) that would be excellent! A great thing you're doing here offering your help to people!

Keelan

Update - Just been given this bit of info by a member on here

Marriage

June 30th 1868 Manchester Cathedral

Johannes Gavaneri 39 yrs bachelor Organ player  father Dominii Gavaneri, gardener
Ellen Rock, 34 yrs, widow.  Father Alexander Smith, Labourer.

Witnesses Vincent and Elizabeth Garibatti