Searching for Mary Lengurill

[LENGURILL]

Thank you so very much for this fascinating insight. My poor old ancestors. It amazes me that I am here at all. I will definitely try to get a copy of the book you recommend. It is high time I made a visit to Liverpool. Again, many thanks.

Oh, good Lord!  What further madness is this?!?  I have just read the Wiki link (many thanks).  what a strange place.  All tenant farmers ejected: could be that Lengurill pere reinvented himself as a wine merchant?  I just can't begin to imagine the circumstances to be honest.  Probably have to draw a line in the sand here.  You have been terrific: thank you SO MUCH.

[Clarijo]

Hello both!  How exciting: it looks as if you might be able to help with my Lengurill search, and to Leslie, yes, it looks as if we are related indeed.  My great-grandmother was Edith, daughter of William Christian.  How strange!  Family is UK based, although we have strong Australian connections.  My own mother was raised there.  Best wishes, and look forward to hearing from you, Clari.

[sarah]

Hello Clarijo,

Leslie has been trying to get in touch but had been having problems with his password, he has asked that I pass on his private email to you which I will do by private message.

Dear Leslie,

I am going to change your password and send you an email, many thanks for your letter and the 3 lovely postcards from Australia.

Regards

Sarah

[H C Schwarze]

Hi, my family are Decendents of Mary Jane and "The Lodger" Hugo Heinrich A.K.A Henry Black. I have read she was born on Lambey Island Ireland, population in 1850 around 140, most of whom were chased off the Island to make way for English and Scots settlers. She married Christian Fischer on 16th December 1858, he passed away December 1872. She married Hugo Heinrich and was living at 28 Brock Street Kirkdale Liverpool in 1881. They then Ran a Fishmongers shop at 29 Walton Lane, which was called Fischers. It was still called Fischers until May 8th 1915, when it was destroyed during the anti-German Riots, caused by the sinking of the Lusitania. Coincidently, Hugo Heinrich married again, to a much younger woman called Anne Jones, they called their first son Charles Christian, he was sadly killed in Flanders fighting for The Liverpool Kings Regiment, aged 24, he died on 8th May 1917, having signed up in 1915, a few months before the attack on the shop.

[Clarijo]

Hello, H C Schwarze! Yes, I knew some of this, but I had forgotten a lot of it.  Two years ago, I went to the church in Lpool where Mary Jane and Christian were married and felt quite sentimental. Then a curate appeared and told me that most of it had been rebuilt after bombing.  I went to Stanley Street where Mary Jane had lived with her father (a Wine Merchant! Hmm. I wonder) and her sister with the complicated name.  I thought that The Lodger was a naphtha manufacturer? I didn't know he'd gone into the wet fish business. How strange. I knew nothing of Fischers on Walton Lane. I DID know about Anne Jones, but I can't remember how I know this or who told me.  When did Mary Jane die? Do you know?  Heartbreaking about Charles Christian poor thing. 

[H C Schwarze]

Hello Clarijo, Mary Jane died in March 1890, she and Hugo Henry had moved to 30 Rickman Street Kirkdale, ( it's still there) Hugo was a Chemist and had another shop with a work yard next to it, on the nearby Commercial Road were he Distilled Naptha,amongst other Chemicals. The shop on Walton Lane was also near to that Area,which was more of a General Store with fresh Fish as the Principle stock. Apparently,after the death of Annie Jones, his second wife, the squabbles between members of the family and due to his own failing health, Hugo Henry burnt his Will and the Deeds to the properties, he died in 1901. The shop on Walton Lane continued in the Fischer name until World War One, my Grandfather Fredrick was badly injured aged 11 trying to stop the attack on the shop, he was pushed under a Horse and Cart, he received a lot of broken bones, but survived and went on to join the R.A.F during World War Two. His Father, Henry Charles was sent to the Internment Camp on the Isle of Man for the rest of World War One, along with many more German Shop Keepers, I don't know at present if any of the Fischer side of the family were rounded up, a lot of German origin men were also sent to Camps in the Lake District.

[Clarijo]

Thank you so much for this. I will pass it onto my mother when I see her tomorrow. She is 86 now, but in tremendous health - mentally and physically - and first-class recall of the past. I know she will be interested. Mary Jane was her great-great grandmother. Mary Jane's eldest son William (Wilhelm) Christian was her great-grandfather, and she remembers him. Not the easiest of people, by all accounts.  I am very grateful to you.

[H C Schwarze]

You are very welcome, I will forward you any further information or photos I may discover in the future regarding the Fischers/Lengurills, glad to hear your mother is still in fine fettle, my father is also in good health aged 84, still owns and drives a car occasionally, I hope thats something in the DNA. Good Luck,Good Health.

[suzi1302]

Hi there, I've come to a brick wall and looking for help if possible.I'm a descendent on the Schwarze side. I'm trying to find out where Hugo Henry Schwarze 1831-1901 is buried and also his son Henry Charles (who was married to Ellen Stanton 1877-1951).
I have found Ellen she is buried with her father Thomas Stanton but can't piece the puzzle of what happened to her husband.
Henry Charles Schwarze 1874-1931.
There is another family member also called Henry C Schwarze 1930-1931 who died the same year. I have found him in an unmarked grave.
I'm in Liverpool looking for the next few weeks!
Many thanks in advance