Searching for Mary Lengurill

[barryd]

familysearch.org has the marriage but not the fathers and witnesses!

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2TT-R57

[Clarijo]

Another wonderful reference!  Thank you soooooo much.
I will have to look into these Michell people; the so-called Lodgers, or Visitors.  I am sorry to say that the whole story seems rather odd.  It has the vibe of marriages-of-convenience.  Great age differences, for eg.  I sincerely hope I have not stumbled across something sinister. 

[Clarijo]

I am now wondering whether Charlotte Michell, aged 40, Workman's Wife, is in fact the MOTHER of John Michell, aged 18, Workman.  I do hope so.  The alternative is not so comfortable.  Oh DEAR.  WHO are these Lengurills/Langurills?  Does it often get muddy like this?

[avm228]

Also a "Susan Langrill" m. 1871, father John:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNS7-HKP
to Agustus/Augustus Ledwich or Ledwick.

Susan's husband may be the August Ledwick, 24, who served as a fireman on the vessel City of Brooklyn out of Liverpool, Nov 1872-Jan 1873.

His birthplace appears to be Poland.

[avm228]

I am now wondering whether Charlotte Michell, aged 40, Workman's Wife, is in fact the MOTHER of John Michell, aged 18, Workman.  I do hope so.  The alternative is not so comfortable.  Oh DEAR.  WHO are these Lengurills/Langurills?  Does it often get muddy like this?

Our ancestors have a habit of surprising us!  It's important not to apply wishful thinking.  There are a number of possibilities here, including that there is an error in their respective ages as shown in the 1871 census.  We do not know how legible or otherwise was the household schedule provided to the enumerator.

The marriage certificate may assist with precise ages of bride and groom, or it may just state Full age or Minor, as the case may be.

[sugarbakers]

 And a drastic change of occupation for Christian - sugar baker to engine driver!

Not necessarily. There's a possibility he moved jobs within the refinery. Being in charge of a stationary engine would have been a move upwards from labourer (which is what the vast majority of sugarbakers were).

Union Place and Free Church Row were, I think, both off Scotland Road, and so may have both been within easy walking distance of the sugarhouse.

(Will add Christian and his two lodgers to the database asap).

[Clarijo]

What is a sugar baker?  Why would he come over to the UK to do such work?  Was Germany in recession, and why Liverpool?  I am a very much of the South East; don't know much/anything about the North West.

[avm228]

Liverpool was important in the development of large-scale industrial sugar refining - see e.g this on Henry Tate, later of Tate & Lyle:

www.tateandlyle.com/aboutus/history/pages/henrytate.aspx

I believe there was early expertise in Germany in sugar refining, so Christian may have been recruited for his skills.  I suspect sugarbakers will know a great deal more!

[Clarijo]

Thank you very much!  So, a sugar baker was a labourer in a refinery most likely.  I suppose there were other refineries in Liverpool.  I don't suppose you happen to know what a naphtha rectifier did?  I have just found out that this is what Heinrich Schwarze claimed to be.