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Re: Searching for Mary Lengurill
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 14:52 GMT (UK) »
Welcome from me too.  Don't give up yet!

What is the occupation for John Lengurill given on Mary's marriage?

Ireland + Gibraltar connections makes me think possibly military?

X-posted with jorose thinking along same lines :))
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Searching for Mary Lengurill
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 14:53 GMT (UK) »
highly probable she was from a Military family, stationed in outposts like Gibraltar, and maybe a bit later garrisoned in Ireland....... try asking on here if theres records of Regiments in those places in early to late 1840s .... next step would be to look at a site specialising in Military Births overseas ....

I think that findmypast.com has a British Nationals Armed Forces Births 1761-2005 Index available

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Re: Searching for Mary Lengurill
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 14:56 GMT (UK) »
OK, well I see that John was a wine merchant according to the 1858 marriage.

Have you traced the witnesses Louis John and Sarah Evert, in case they are related?

Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Searching for Mary Lengurill
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 15:03 GMT (UK) »
I have seen a copy of it online.  Mary's age is given as "minor", no occupation, living in Stanley Street, Lpool, father John Lengurill, Wine Merchant.  Christian "full age", Labourer, father John Fischer.  Witnesses Louis Liton and Sarah Evert.  All involved appear to have signed in their own hands (no "x" for their marks etc).  St Nicholas Church, Lpool, 16 December 1858.  It is utterly frustrating.  (I am off work with the flu, and if I didn't feel so weak I would throw this laptop at the wall.  Must be the Lemsip taking effect ...) 
Thank you so much for your kind and quick response!


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Re: Searching for Mary Lengurill
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 15:09 GMT (UK) »
Witnesses Louis Liton and Sarah Evert. 

Also appearing in the witness section is the name Louis John - who may be a separate witness, or may be the curate's clarification of the signature (on the same line) which appears to say Louis Liton.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Searching for Mary Lengurill
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 15:09 GMT (UK) »
ENORMOUS THANKS ALL ROUND!!  Loads to get into there.  Time to crack open the Beechams Powders in celebration and get my head around it!

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Re: Searching for Mary Lengurill
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 15:11 GMT (UK) »
Yes, the Louis "Liton" signature is scribbly to say the least, which made me wonder whether all the signatures were approximate?  But it would appear no corrections made to them.  Thank you so much.  I feel as if I have been given a springboard!

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Re: Searching for Mary Lengurill
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 15:18 GMT (UK) »
Im trying to work out what she gives as her pob in 1881 census. (after she had remarried to Schwarze)

Looks like "Lambay"

RG11 3679 89 6

Seems to be an island off Ireland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambay_Island
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Searching for Mary Lengurill
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 15:24 GMT (UK) »
Oh, good Lord!  What further madness is this?!?  I have just read the Wiki link (many thanks).  what a strange place.  All tenant farmers ejected: could be that Lengurill pere reinvented himself as a wine merchant?  I just can't begin to imagine the circumstances to be honest.  Probably have to draw a line in the sand here.  You have been terrific: thank you SO MUCH.