Searching for Mary Lengurill

[Clarijo]

I am desperately trying to further the family tree that my dear cousin started before her untimely death, and I have hit a total brick wall in the shape of our great-great-great grandmother, Mary Jane Lengurill (father John Lengurill).  She married Christian Fischer in Liverpool in December 1858, but her life before that point is a complete mystery: she doesn't seem to exist!  It is such a strange name, that I assumed it must've been a transcription mistake.  However, I have had a good look at the marriage certificate, and it seems to check out.  Not British?  Don't know.  However, the Fischers were definitely German.  Any help at all and I will bless you!  Driving me mad!

[lizdb]

Hi and a warm welcome to Rootschat.

Have you found her and Christian on any census after their marriage?
What is the name, and year and place of birth, of their child (your gg-grandparent) ?

[lizdb]

Following on from those questions (probably answering my own question!)

Is this them in 1861?

1 Union Place, Liverpool
Christian Fischer 26 Sugar BAker bn Oldeborg
Mary J 20 wife bn Gibraltar
William 9mths bn Liverpool

So, looks as if she was born in Gibraltar around 1841.

[Clarijo]

Crikey!  Thanks for quick response.  Yes, the Fischers (Christian and Mary) feature in all the census records I've explored so far: they're very easy to trace.  Their son, Wilhem C (oft recorded as William C), is my direct ancestor.  Christian dies quite early - in his 30s - and then Mary marries the lodger (!!) Heinrich Schwarze (sometimes anglicised as Henry Black!!) and has at least one more son.  All that is clear: but where on earth was she before all this?!

[Clarijo]

GIBRALTAR!!! Flip. No wonder I was in the dark!

[Clarijo]

Thank you SOOOOO much.  I will try, in my hapless way, to find records for Gib.

[lizdb]

1871 however has conflicting info, giving her pob as Ireland .....   And a drastic change of occupation for Christian - sugar baker to engine driver!

1871
Free Church ROw, Liverpool
Christian Fischer  36 Engine driver bn Germany
Mary J 29 bn Ireland
William 10
Frederick 8
Christian 6   children all bn Liverpool
+various visitors

[Clarijo]

Uh-oh.  Another crimp in it.  Honestly, this woman is a complete enigma.  Nothing seems to stack up.  I think I will have to admit defeat, but that you so much for your swift courtesies.

[jorose]

It would help to see an extract of the original marriage if you have it.  Father's occupation, witnesses, etc.  (Gibraltar could suggest a British Navy connection).

If not, I think you need to get hold of it to check that spelling.