The VACHER Familly History

[Vacher]

Hi everybody,Ive just joined up and I need some help,I have managed to trace back to George
Vacher(1630-1668) now I know his father was John (possibly George John born 1605 ) everybody
else's tree says he married Dorothy White ( Weyitt ) possibly about 1628. Has anybody actually
seen this in a parish record? if so where and when? The same question for Johns birth,I know
Dorothy was born in Hazelbury Bryan in Dorset in 1605
There are also references to Johns father being either George or Thomas or even both!
COME ON NOW FELLOW VACHERS WE CAN DO THIS
REGARDS 
CHRIS VACHER 

[garstonite]

OK Chris and welcome to Rootschat
have a look at these
burial 7th jan 1668 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJDH-STSK
a marriage - same village - but not to Dorothy White  it's to Elizabeth Painter and his father is John Vacher  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJDH-SY6R

burial of a son John Vacher https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJDC-JH99
christening of a child https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJDH-SD6T

any thoughts on Elizabeth being his wife and not Dorothy ?

added
this looks like the father John Vacher death in 1661
 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJDH-SD66

if Elizabeth Painter was his wife - another record gives her father as Thomas Painter at the marriage

[garstonite]

1642 - 1651 was the English Civil War  - George would have been 21 when it finished ,so I presume he would have been in the war ...
quote
Although they came from all the surrounding counties the Clubmen were particularly strong in Dorset and after having been harried by Oliver Cromwell some 2-4000 of them became entrenched on Hambledon Hill in August 1645. It was here that they made their last stand led by the Rev. Bravel of Compton Abbas. Against them was Cromwells army of about 1000 men, fresh from the siege of Sherborne Castle and which had earlier surrounded the town of Shaftesbury and capture about 50 of the clubmens leaders who were holding a meeting there. Cromwell attacked from the rear and the clubmen were routed. Most fled, and some it is said, escaped by sliding down the hill on their bottoms, amongst them 4 clergy.

I wonder if a 15 yr old George Vacher was one of them because Milton Abbas is only 6 miles from Hambledon Hill ?

[jim1]

Hello & welcome from me too
These are all the children of George & Elizabeth all born Milton Abbas:
John Vacher christening: 16 June 1656 d.04 Feb 1656 (Julian calendar)
Sara Vacher christening: 26 December 1657
Fran Vacher christening: 2 March 1661
Jethro Vacher christening: 24 January 1663
Richard Vacher christening: 18 February 1665
John Vacher christening: 14 June 1668
Do any of these ring a bell?
There was a programme on recently about the siege.

[Berlin-Bob]

Hi Chris,

Welcome to RootsChat

On my wife's side of the family we have a Fanny Elisabeth Vatcher BENSON, from Dorset.
Topic: 1841 / 1851 or PR: BENSON & VATCHER / VACHER
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=39491.0

We've speculated about there being a VACHER / VATCHER connection there but we haven't found it yet 

I was contacted by another (RootsChat) Vacher researcher, DebPat.
She's doing a One-Name-Study for VACHER / VACHRE / VATCHER
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=26487.0

It's probably worth contacting her.  I've sent her a PM with a link to this topic.

regards,
Bob

[DebPat]

Hi Chris, hows it going?

Everybody elses tree is wrong. lol

We know from George's marriage to Elizabeth Painter (5 Jul 1655) and the 1st banns of the same (10 Jun 1655) that George's father was John Vacher.

John their first son is baptised 16 Jun 1556 Milton Abbas but he dies aged 7.5 months old and is buried 4 Feb 1656 (OC (Julian) which would be 4 Feb 1657 as the year changed in March after the Gregorian New year in Jan)

The reason i believe folks are getting mixed up and believe John married a Dorothy Whyte is due to a mistranslation on the Dorset OPC site of the below.

[DebPat]

last attachment where the info seems mixed up.

and this the copy past from the Dorset Opc.

Thomas WELLS son of John Vacher & Dorothy (of Wareham) WEYITT daughter of John Weyitt of Mordon married 01-Jul 1655

George VACHER of Milton Abbey clarke & Elizabeth PAINTER d.of Thomas Painter of Portland married 05-Jul 1655

[Vacher]

[Hi Garstonite,
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly,
The burial on 7-1-1668 was Georges and his wife was Elizabeth painter ( of Portland)
their first child was John but he died after 7 months.
they had 7 kids in all (let me know if you want the details)
I agree this death in 1661 could easily be George's dad John.
But who was George's mum? Dorothy ?
As for Hambledon  Hill , if he was there he must have kept his head down or legged it because he
lasted another 23 years!
regards Chris

[Vacher]

Hi Jim,
thanks for the reply,did you know George's last 3 sons had 30 kids between them! (no telly in them days !) George and Elizabeth had 7 kids in all your 6, plus George born 1659.
regards Chris