Garston: Ring O Bells Pub on Church Road

[Ruskie]

If you follow your families through the censuses you will most likely come across the one you are seeking, possibly even at the Ring O Bells. I'd try the 1901 census if I were you. 

[garstonite]

The first thing to point out is that the photo was taken FROM Church rd - not IN Church Rd ...the pub is in Woolton Road -if you look on the wall at the road sign you will see it is Woolton Rd ...The Gibbons family came from Westport on the west coast of Ireland and still have family here ...I am pretty sure the family name you are looking for is Rylands ??... ,that family still live here ...I will check that The Ring of Bells was in Woolton Road - I am pretty sure it wasn`t Church Road - that pub - no 16 was the Cock and Trumpet ..
can someone check Woolton Rd for a pub in the census - and maybe you will find the Miller family there ..that family are also still in Garston -
hope this helps
 

[HarrisonHart]

The weird thing is the correct cobblers are in church rd in some of the records here-in, and it was a pub before that.  Is that not kettle nook between the buildings and the hospital? my dad is very vision impared but he used to attend st francis so he traversed those streets from king st on the daily.  I showed him the picture and described it and he said it sounds like the pic is taken from near the mona?  Im not familiar enough and dads too blind to be sure.  but yes I see the street sign.

[Blue70]

Cock & Trumpet (P.H.) appears on the attached map c1900s but in a different location. The sign in the photo appears to me to say Church Road. Looking on Google the building is still there.


Blue

[Blue70]

This is the property that appears to be on the old photo:-

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-to-let/property-25949877.html


Blue

[Jool]

The recent photo found by Blue shows it was Church Road.
The 1901 census shows Catherine Scanlon as Innkeeper at 14 & 16 Church Road, the number on the on the schedule is 40.  This is most likely the Cock & Trumpet, as already pointed out, and not the pub in your photo.
The Hospital (in your photo) number on schedule is 60 so too far away for sched no. 40 to be the pub in the photo. 
The entry before the hospital is the Station House, then house number 53, however no sign of a pub/inn near the hospital     There is a pub at 31 Church Road (sched no 47) run by Thomas Lamb. Also another pub at 33 Church Road, John Buyers.

 RG13 Piece 3507 Fol 94 page 9, but these too seem too far from the hospital.

Sorry, not much help really 

[Blue70]

Definitely not Cock & Trumpet see my map for the location of that pub.


Blue

[Jool]

Hi Blue, yes I agree the pub in the photo is not the Cock & Trumpet, I was probably not very clear in my previous post.  I was trying to say that we can definitely rule out no. 16 (Cock & Trumpet) as it is too far away, as your map and the 1901 census shows.  Also that the nearest pubs to the hospital shown in 1901 were at nos. 31 and 33.

Sorry to confuse 

ps.  I have modified my previous post to clarify.

[Blue70]

The map on this link has the surviving properties on the corner of Church Road and Speke Road as numbers 8 and 10. If the map is right then the property thought to be the Ring O Bells in the old photo is not it. Number 16 the former beer sellers later cobblers would be further up:-

http://media.rightmove.co.uk/106k/105362/48115799/105362_Speke_Road_L19_2JX_IMG_02_0000_max_620x414.jpg


Blue