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Re: Clarification of Birth Details and WW1 Grave
« Reply #9 on: Monday 24 November 14 19:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I would have thought that if James, was still using the name, Marsden, at the age of 18 he would have kept that name, if the other 2 children were younger, they would have probably, took the name of there stepfather, there we no checks at this time, and even to this day, anyone can change there name, without ant legal requirements, has long has it is not for fraudulent use.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/change-of-name.htm

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 25 November 14 09:36 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much MARGP.

That has been a great help.  The link explains a lot and will be useful for other uncertainties within my family research.

Mundell

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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 25 November 14 10:57 GMT (UK) »
my friends can correct me if I am wrong but in those days adoption did not need any paperwork

Absolutely right. There was no formal legal adoption procedure in Scotland until about 1930.
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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 25 November 14 11:00 GMT (UK) »
I wonder why the term 'Poor' was applied.

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The term poor would have been used to show that she satisfied the conditions for what was the equivalent of " legal aid"

It might also imply that she was a pauper, and therefore that she might have been on the Register of Poor. If so, and the record has survived, it might contain quite a lot of information about her.
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Re: Clarification of Birth Details and WW1 Grave
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 25 November 14 11:26 GMT (UK) »
Hello Mundell,

                   hope you had a good rest ( Break ), my uncle was killed on D-Day+1 at Normandy and when I searched SP there is no death record for him, I can only assume that because these brave lads were killed in action they would have been buried under the Flag ( Union Jack ), so there may be a death record in England for them. Only a suggestion.

Cheers.

Archie.


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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 25 November 14 14:15 GMT (UK) »
Hello Archie,
     Did you try Minor Records on SP? I found both my Grandfather (WW1) and Uncle (WW2) listed in Minor Records/Service Returns. Although included in a list of soldiers the heading at top of page gives year & name followed by [Statutory Deaths 151/AF 00--]
     Details on the sheet are: Reg. Number, Rank, Name (in full), Age, Country of Birth, Date of Death, Place of Death & Cause of Death.
     I knew both Grandfather & Uncle Jim served with the Argylls. I also knew their Reg. Numbers & date of their deaths, which made them easy to find.
     My apologies to Mundell for hi-jacking his thread. Good luck to you both in your searches.
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Re: Clarification of Birth Details and WW1 Grave
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 25 November 14 16:02 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Forfarian , Archie and Dod.

Forfarian - I will follow up your suggestion regarding Register of Poor.

Archie - I was just beginning to wonder about English records as several years ago that is where I had found my Scottish Grandfather - Robert Glendinning Mundell who died in 1915.  I had forgotten that option.  So, will pursue that.

Dod - you're welcome to use this thread as all who respond add information which enhances my education in these matters.  Rootschatters have been very helpful over time.

Thanks again, folks.  Mundell

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Re: Clarification of Birth Details and WW1 Grave
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 25 November 14 19:50 GMT (UK) »
Hello Dod and Mundell,

                          Dod thanks for the advice and I will pursue it, however I know how he died and where, his number and his Ship the sad thing is I think he was buried at Sea for all that was left of him. His name is marked down at Plymouth.

Mudell thanks for your very kind understanding it is appreciated.

Cheers.

Archie.


           

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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 25 November 14 22:35 GMT (UK) »
Hello Mundell & Archie,
     An earlier thread by Lisajb, Topic: Death certificates for soldiers killed in action.
     This thread has some useful information regarding Servicemen's DCs, including an example from SP of the AIF form I referred to in my post. Also has a link to FindMyPast  where I believe DCs can be viewed. Might be the same as SP but surely next-of-kin would have been issued with some form of DC. Might be worth a look.

     http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/british-nationals-armed-forces-deaths-1796-2005

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