Marriage 1816 Thomas Ralph and Catherine ? Wolverhampton

[LizzieL]

An Edward Ralph s/o Thomas married mary Ann Evans in Tipton in 1953, no scan just a transcript unfortunately. i think I have them on 1861 census, Edward was born in Worcester(shire?) and they have children Joseph and Catherine.
So could Edward be Thomas and Catherine's son?  born quite a bit after John, the father of Rosanna, Emma and Elizabeth (and others). 
I have a possible for Rosanna in three censuses, recorded as hannah twice and Rose H (Rose Hannah?) once. Her Pob is Worcestershire on two censuses and Tipton on one. but this nees more investigation.

[Mary Jane Tape]

You have found John father of Emma, Roseanna, Elizabeth etc.  Is this from my initial info or from other records?

I may have been on the wrong track thinking Thomas was born in Oxfordshire - he could have been born there while his parents were passing through.  Need to check up on when the canals were working.

Quite often the census returns give different places of birth.  John's grandsons, William and Thomas lived in Aston Street in later censuses.  Both gave Oxfordshire as their birth place on one census but later Thomas gave Tipton as his birthplace!

I know that Roseanna married Charles Lloyd - I have the certificate.  Not sure who Thomas Ralph is - could be her younger brother, but no idea about Mary Ann Ralph because Thomas married Letitia somebody.
Trying to tie down this John is a problem as there were two, one lived at Lower Gornall while my John lived at Toll End.

[LizzieL]

FindMyPast has images of the parish register for the three marriages and transcription of the marriage of Edward and Mary Ann. If you have a cert from the GRO, it may have been mistranscribed if it says Thomas as witness to Rosanna's marriage. The  FindMyPast scan is the original register not a transcription, but it is teh mark of Edw Ralph as he couldn't sign his name. As it looks as if he is the son of Thomas, he is likely to be Rosanna's uncle.

[Mary Jane Tape]

Lizzie, this is looking very good.  I've just looked at Roseanna and Charles' photocopied marriage certificate and you are right - it's not Thomas who was a witness, it was Edward, well a contraction of Edward.
Edward and Mary Ann were uncle and aunt.
Do Edward and Mary Ann show up in any other censuses I wonder?  Must check.
Thanks for clearing up that little mystery.