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Problem With 3 Dates of Births
« on: Wednesday 05 November 14 14:56 GMT (UK) »
This has been flummoxing me a while..the thing is all these people are still living so can't put any prticular details up but..what i have is three entries in births of three people with exactly the same christian names and surnames..one born in 1968,one in 1973 and one in 1989..they were all born in the same place somewhere in London..now this is the thing..the mother's maiden name in all three of them is..yes..the same..could they all be connected in some way..maybe '68 is the father of '89..it's just the mothers name that is throwing me.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated....pm if neccessary

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Re: Problem With 3 Dates of Births
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 15:03 GMT (UK) »
It wasn't that the 1968 died and the 1973 was named after him?

My hubby was born in 1950 and named the same as his older brother who had died 2 years before aged just 9 months.

PM me with the info if you like,two heads are better than one and all that !  ;D

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Re: Problem With 3 Dates of Births
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 15:07 GMT (UK) »
Pm on way Carol

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Re: Problem With 3 Dates of Births
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 15:20 GMT (UK) »
Hmm, as you say a mystery.

Same mmn on each,so I'm not convinced that the 1989 is son of 1968 or 73.

No S or A after the page number to suggest an alteration has been made to the original registration.

Not a very common name either...............sorry no more suggestions.

Off to see if said person married in the same area.

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Carol

ADDED- can't see a marriage for him.......sorry!
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Re: Problem With 3 Dates of Births
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 15:47 GMT (UK) »
Are you just going by date of registration on GRO index when you say there are three dates of birth?

I have the same person registered with dates about 8 years apart. The earlier one was her actual year of birth. The later year is the same as the year her parents got married, so possibly could be a legal adoption by her father. The child was registered with the father's surname at time of birth even though the parents didn't marry until some years later.

I have other relatives born in the 1980s who were legally adopted by their mother's second husband, their original records on GRO index have a hand annotated reference number after the record. Possibly a reference to adoption certificate. In this case the children took the surname of their stepfather.

Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Problem With 3 Dates of Births
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 15:54 GMT (UK) »
Lizzie as Steve has gone offline,I'll answer that if I may.

The child has the same full name and the same mothers maiden name ( which is the same as his surname) in each of the 3 GRO indexes.

I understood that if any alterations were made to the original cert,an S (supplementary) would be added to the later GRO ref?  Would you expect the surname to change too?
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Re: Problem With 3 Dates of Births
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 16:01 GMT (UK) »
Its the actual Cert you need to see for Margin numbered comments.

Wouldnt surprise me if the first said 'See x73' and that one in turn said 'See x89'

(Where x = M, J, S or D for the Quarter in question)

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Re: Problem With 3 Dates of Births
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 16:14 GMT (UK) »
If it is the same person,he'd have been 21 by 1989,could it be that he made a slight alteration to the details himself?
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Re: Problem With 3 Dates of Births
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 16:16 GMT (UK) »
In the first of my examples the child had the same name (two christian names and a quite uncommon surname) on both references and of course same mother's maiden name. The parents had been living together and registered her in father's surname. So the later record had the same surname and coincided with when they married, So no change in surname in that case.
This is quite recent so there is no image as GRO index was computerised by then.

Also just found her sister, again two register entries, one actual year of birth and the second the same as the parents marriage year, her second register entry is consecutive with her sister's.
 
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott