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Re: looking for Sister and family of Francis Smith (1907, leeds W.Yorkshire)
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 06 November 14 17:56 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for your replies.

JeannieR: I was just in the process of checking your info regarding Eileen's whereabouts in 1937, and it would appear to fit the facts regarding possible location. I assume when you say parent's your source also lists them as being alive in 1937. I only ask because I have found a possible death for her father James William in Sept qtr of 1937 (aged 57).
Regarding your latest info, yes I believe that you have the right Peter Smith, and will try to trace his children.

MaryP: I don't as yet have her exact birth date. The one you gave is possible. The birth I know was registered 2nd qtr 1909. 31 March being 1 day short of the start of this qtr, would make it highly likely that the birth would appear in this qtrs records. Thank you. If the death record tallies, then :
a. She didn't marry, and b. There is a strong possibility of no children.


Goughy: Thanks for your reply. I was getting my Esthers and Eileens mixed up for a minute. Yes I think you are right. This is The Esther who is the sister of Peter and James William. Coupled with the grave details from JeannieR, it is helping to narrow the search.



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Re: looking for Sister and family of Francis Smith (1907, leeds W.Yorkshire)
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 06 November 14 22:48 GMT (UK) »
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I am sure that you have Esther's death. She was buried at Killingbeck Catholic cemetery in Grave 2436

Peter did marry, Annie Eliza Drake, they had one son, Leonard in 1900, If I am correct, Peter died in 1925, age 46. He was also buried at Killingbeck , Grave 18811.

JeannieR

Peter had the middle name Joseph?

He had 2 children but one died - there is a son Leonard (who lived) age 5 in 1911 - but there is also a tree on A*****y which has Leonard as b. 1900 ? He is not with his parents in 1901 ??????

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Re: looking for Sister and family of Francis Smith (1907, leeds W.Yorkshire)
« Reply #11 on: Friday 07 November 14 07:21 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Suzard. It's possible that 1900 is a 'rough' estimate of birth. There seem to be a lot of Leonard Smiths born in yorkshire around the turn of the century. I did find a tree (on a website that is no longer available!) that listed peter smith married to Annie Drake, and with Leonard as the son, but at the time I wasn't sure if this was the right family. From the scant info I did make a note of, Leonard appeared to marry. There was a possibility of 2 children (boys) I think.

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Re: looking for Sister and family of Francis Smith (1907, leeds W.Yorkshire)
« Reply #12 on: Friday 07 November 14 12:49 GMT (UK) »
Hello Again.

Leonard Smith, married Edna May Schofield at St Annes Cathedral, Leeds. The marriage was registered in the September qtr of 1934

There were birth registrations for two possible sons (mothers maiden name Schofield ) in the March qtr 1935 and the September qtr of 1938. You can check this on the Freebmd website, to get their names.

The information I gave you yesterday, re Eileen still being at home in 1937, came from a Register of Electors CD for that year.

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Re: looking for Sister and family of Francis Smith (1907, leeds W.Yorkshire)
« Reply #13 on: Friday 07 November 14 17:42 GMT (UK) »
Update on Eileen.
Apparently she did marry. Her husband was Albert S Tomlinson, who she married in 1939. Can anyone find out if they had children, and if so what were/are their names?
Other info gleaned. She died fairly recently (not sure where). She was in her 90s.

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Re: looking for Sister and family of Francis Smith (1907, leeds W.Yorkshire)
« Reply #14 on: Friday 07 November 14 18:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi

There 3 possible children I will PM you with the details later

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Re: looking for Sister and family of Francis Smith (1907, leeds W.Yorkshire)
« Reply #15 on: Friday 07 November 14 21:43 GMT (UK) »
 I thought that the later the timeline, the easier it would be to find relatives, but in fact the opposite is true. Because of the lack of census material, there are a lot of possible relatives, but no way of tieing them to a family group. I can see a lot of blind alleys coming up. How would you check family groupings say for the 1950 s to 1990s ?
Apart from that, I am making great progress with the tree thanks to rootschatters  ;D

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Re: looking for Sister and family of Francis Smith (1907, leeds W.Yorkshire)
« Reply #16 on: Friday 07 November 14 21:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I think that you may have to send for the, birth certificate, of the oldest child. to check if you have the correct parents, this should give you an address. then check the Electoral Registers for them, other that that, you could put your story in one of the local papers, to if anything come of that.

Also check to see if any of the children, married and had children, if they did there is always Facebook to check.

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Re: looking for Sister and family of Francis Smith (1907, leeds W.Yorkshire)
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 08 November 14 12:43 GMT (UK) »
Hello....

Eileen Mary died in 2003, registered at Worthing, Sussex. Her birthday was May 4th 1909

I have her on the 2002 Electoral Rolls, living with her married daughter, born 1943, her son in law, and three grandchildren.

I think Eileen's daughter still lives in Sussex, and I think I have found her grandaughter living in London, She married in 2005.

I would be happy to PM this info

JeannieR
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