Frances Oakes, born in Scotland, but where? Where do I start?

[samanthac]

and this one

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Abothwell~%20%2Bmarriage_place%3Ascotland~%20%2Bmarriage_year%3A1838-1838~%20%2Bresidence_place%3Aglasgo~%20%2Bspouse_givenname%3Ajohn~%20%2Bspouse_surname%3Aduff~

[PhilDargan]

Ah.... looking at the dates I have, there appears to be some considerable gaps.  I have her as born in 1853 but according to the above it's 1871 which is gives me 28 questionable years... And considering her eldest child that I have was born in 1874, (her daughter Annie was born in 1887), I think it's safe to say we have identically named & located people...

[MonicaL]

Hi Phil

I think that in the 1881 census that Sam posted, the ages have been mistrascribed for John and wife Fanny...

Sam, from the Duff births you linked above (from Family Search), see there is a birth of a daughter, Margaret, to Margaret Bothwell and John Duff in 1855 in Kirkintilloch Dumbarton. The original image for this birth cert, as it is the first year of official registration in Scotland, should include the place of births for both parents, date and location of marriage and other useful info.

Monica 

[MonicaL]

I think that in the 1881 census that Sam posted, the ages have been mistrascribed for John and wife Fanny...

Sorry, that is nonsense    The entry that Sam posted is actually from the 1861 census not 1881, for the household of John Duff and Margaret Bothwell. Makes more sense!

Monica

[samanthac]

Thanks for your input.........

So are we from the same stock Phil?

Are you familir with the area?

[ecksdochter]

Hello samanthac,
     If the Oakes family was back in Ireland by 1881 then it's unlikely Frances was born in Scotland about 1882.
     ScotlandsPeople has a birth for a Fanny Oakes in Camlachie District, Glasgow, Lanarkshire in 1878. Ages on Census Returns aren't always reliable so might be worth a look.
               Regards,     Dod.

[Forfarian]

In the 1881 Scotish Cences they lived; High Street, Buckshead Gosed?
In the 1881 Scotish Cences, there is;
John Duff aged 10 years (son)
Fanny Duff aged 8
Margaret Duff 5
Agnes Duff 3

I still can't find thie listing of this family in the CD-ROM version of the Scottish 1881 census, but 'Buckshead Gosed' has to be a mistranscription of whatever it is supposed to be. Where did this come from?

Edit: Light is dawning. The index to the 1861 (Not 1881) Census on FamilySearch lists these four children in Kirkintilloch, Dunbartonshire, all born in Dunbartonshire. To see what the address actually reads, rather than some bizarre mistranscription, you need to view the original at SP.

[ev]

Forfarian , think that should be the 1861 Census(just noticed your edit).
The transcription I'm looking at has the address as "Back's Head Close , Kirkintilloch".



ev

The parents are  -
John Duff 49 Labourer(Stonebreaker) born Ireland
Margaret Duff 45 Wife    Cotton Weaver born Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland.

[Forfarian]

The transcription I'm looking at has the address as "Back's Head Close , Kirkintilloch".

Ah, yes. That makes a lot more sense.