Frances Oakes, born in Scotland, but where? Where do I start?

[samanthac]

Hello

Frances Oakes, DOB around 1882, was born in Scotland, but I have no idea where?  She moved to Dublin with her family, she remained in Ireland, eventually moving to Carlingford, Louth, Ireland, where she died.  I believe her parents were Patrick and her mother Frances, both may have been Frances Mary.  I believe her mother's DOB to be around 1855 and her maiden name was Duff.  Somewhere along the line, they also changed their name from Macdarragh, but this may have been once they were in Ireland.

I have been using the Irish censes and this is where I gathered my information, but how do I start to investigate my Scottish ancestors?

Any tips would be appreciated.

Regards

Sam

[CaroleW]

Hi

Scotlands People is the only way you will get that type of info.  It's a pay per view site via purchase of credits but you can search the index for free

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

[..claire..]

Hi

Parents marriage maybe,

Patrick Oakes married FANNY DUFF 6 Dec 1873 Bridgeton,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland.

claire

[..claire..]

Hi

Looks like their first child was born in the same place

Margaret OAKES bap. 13 Sep 1874 Bridgeton,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland.
Parents: Patrick OAKES and Fanny DUFFY

claire

[samanthac]

Clare, thank you, thank you, thank you, so much for the information.   My great grandmother was also born there, are you able to shed any light on her, Frances Mary ?

Thanks again.........

[loobylooayr]

Hi Samanthac

I would advise you to register with Scotlands People  www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Like Carole said you can search the index for free - but to view costs credits.
£7 buys 30 credits
You could view the original marriage register of Patrick Oakes and Fanny Duff in 1873 Bridgton, Glasgow for 6 credits ( £1.18 approx) - this would give you addresses, ages, occupations, parents names, father's occupation.

The Frances Mary you refer to - is she another child of the above couple?

Looby 

[Forfarian]

Somewhere along the line, they also changed their name from Macdarragh, but this may have been once they were in Ireland.

They're not in the LDS CD-ROM transcription of the 1881 census - maybe they moved back and forth between Scotland and Ireland.

You may already know that 'darag' or 'darach' (with umpteen variations of spelling of course) is the Scots Gaelic for 'oak'. I gather that the Irish is similar.

[avm228]

The birthplaces of the children on the 1901 Ireland census suggest that they may have moved to Dublin City by 1881, unfortunately (from a records point of view).  Ellen is said to have been born there 1881-2.

Frances is not with them in 1901:

www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Mountjoy/Summer_Place/1326557/

[loobylooayr]

There is a Fannie Duff in Bridgeton on the 1871 Census born approx 1853 (age 18) in Dunbartonshire.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBPH-LP6

On the 1861 - this Fanny appears to be in Kirkintilloch  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBWD-K3P

Maybe Patrick's wife ?

Looby