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What happened to Hannah?Hi again
« on: Saturday 01 November 14 18:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi again,

One last plea for assistance with this family if I may.

Hannah GRESTY (b.1883, Ringway, Cheshire) = William Arthur LAMB (b. 1880, Wharton, Cheshire)

William was discharged from active war service with the Cheshire Regiment in 1914 (Service number 17693).  Unfit for further military service.  He died in 1939.

I am trying to find out if they had any kids and what happened to Hannah after William died.

Any help much appreciated.

Death 1962 Bucklow - Hannah LAMB - is definitely not her.  I have the cert in my hand.
Taylor of Bramhall CHS (At rest 1577)
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Hollin(gs)worth, Hale Barns, Bowdon, Dunham Massey, CHS. & Pensax, Worcs (At rest 1658)
Roylance of Handforth & Cheadle CHS (stuck at 1775).
Bailey/Bayley of Mobberley, CHS (stuck at 1809)
Miller of Mickleham & Charlwood, SRY (At rest 1684).

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Re: What happened to Hannah?Hi again
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 01 November 14 18:33 GMT (UK) »
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I am trying to find out if they had any kids and what happened to Hannah after William died.

Married 1912 so have you used freebmd to check for Lamb births with mothers maiden name Gresty?

Have you checked for a re-marriage for Hannah after 1939?

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He died in 1939.

Did Hannah report his death?
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Re: What happened to Hannah?Hi again
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 01 November 14 19:21 GMT (UK) »
Are you sure about Hannah's date of birth. I agree the Hannah Gresty b 1883 in Ringway is a candidate, however I have looked at William's WWI pension record which notes that he marries a Hannah Gresty, widow, and they have an address in Dunham Town.

there is this family in 1901 in Dunham Massey

John Gresty    38
Hannah Gresty    37
Mary Morgan Gresty    11
Phoebe Gresty    9
Margaret Alice Gresty    6
Bertha Minnie Gretsy    3

RG13, 3326, 63, 20.

John dies 7 June 1910. If you search for Hannah and her family in 1911, you will find the full list quite interesting.

this Hannah Gresty is b c1863. there's this death which would fit

Hannah Lamb
Q4 1914
Age 51 [b c1863]
Bucklow Vol 8a, p252



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Re: What happened to Hannah?Hi again
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 01 November 14 19:38 GMT (UK) »
Yes, the pension record has been endorsed with widow but you misunderstand why.  This would have been when William died in 1939 as the pension would have then become a widow's war pension and the records would be amended to reflect this change.  I am sure that I have the correct Hannah as Gresty was her maiden name and not her married name as with the Dunham Town Hannah. It was worth checking though.
Taylor of Bramhall CHS (At rest 1577)
Parrott (Middlewich & Sandbach CHS (At rest 1675)
Hollin(gs)worth, Hale Barns, Bowdon, Dunham Massey, CHS. & Pensax, Worcs (At rest 1658)
Roylance of Handforth & Cheadle CHS (stuck at 1775).
Bailey/Bayley of Mobberley, CHS (stuck at 1809)
Miller of Mickleham & Charlwood, SRY (At rest 1684).


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Re: What happened to Hannah?Hi again
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 01 November 14 19:48 GMT (UK) »
On second thoughts you could be right.  I need to take a closer look and not be quite so dismissive.
Taylor of Bramhall CHS (At rest 1577)
Parrott (Middlewich & Sandbach CHS (At rest 1675)
Hollin(gs)worth, Hale Barns, Bowdon, Dunham Massey, CHS. & Pensax, Worcs (At rest 1658)
Roylance of Handforth & Cheadle CHS (stuck at 1775).
Bailey/Bayley of Mobberley, CHS (stuck at 1809)
Miller of Mickleham & Charlwood, SRY (At rest 1684).

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Re: What happened to Hannah?Hi again
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 01 November 14 19:57 GMT (UK) »
A copy of the 1912 marriage cert will show whether she was a widow and will also show her age and her fathers name which will give you her maiden name
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Re: What happened to Hannah?Hi again
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 01 November 14 19:58 GMT (UK) »
Thank you. You are right.  I've adopted the wrong Hannah and therefore the wrong husband.  I'm back at my starting point again with Hannah GRESTY (b.1883, Ringway, Cheshire).  I need to find the correct marriage for her now.
Taylor of Bramhall CHS (At rest 1577)
Parrott (Middlewich & Sandbach CHS (At rest 1675)
Hollin(gs)worth, Hale Barns, Bowdon, Dunham Massey, CHS. & Pensax, Worcs (At rest 1658)
Roylance of Handforth & Cheadle CHS (stuck at 1775).
Bailey/Bayley of Mobberley, CHS (stuck at 1809)
Miller of Mickleham & Charlwood, SRY (At rest 1684).

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Re: What happened to Hannah?Hi again
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 01 November 14 20:10 GMT (UK) »
OK so your one had parents Hugh & Mary A in 1891 Hannah b Hale is this correct?
Census ref RG12/2825/64/15

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Re: What happened to Hannah?Hi again
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 01 November 14 20:12 GMT (UK) »
The William Lamb who died Bucklow 1939 was 59 so b 1880 - which would suggest he was the one who married Hannah in 1912 - you need that marriage cert

From Cheshire BMD

DAWSON   Hannah   LAMB   William A   Bucklow, Civil Marriage   Trafford   ALT/29/171
GRESTY   Hannah   LAMB   William A   Bucklow, Civil Marriage   Trafford   ALT/29/171
LAMB   William A   DAWSON   Hannah   Bucklow, Civil Marriage   Trafford   ALT/29/171
LAMB   William A   GRESTY   Hannah   Bucklow, Civil Marriage   Trafford   ALT/29/171
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