Mystery of two Anne Statters b. 1850

[LGardner]

Thank you all for contributing good ideas and information.  The marriage document is posted on Ancestry and shows it to be from England and Wales Marriages 1538-1940.  It says it is certified to be a true copy and bears a seal:  General Register Office, England.  Document #MXG027683.

Elizabeth Statters was indeed missing from my information.  I'll have to try to discover more about her, to see if it is possible that she is the birth mother rather than the brother Braithwaite.  As to the comment that the other Ann could simply be an entry error, the census documents would seem to dispute that theory.

[jan57]

A  tree  on Ancestry  has John Statters  ( of  1851  census   ) Marrying an Ann Knight   who  was  a widow  , maiden  name Porter,  she  dies  in March  1850   of Inflammation , Childbed  ( they  have   death cert   on tree )   

[MargP]

Thank you all for contributing good ideas and information.  The marriage document is posted on Ancestry and shows it to be from England and Wales Marriages 1538-1940.  It says it is certified to be a true copy and bears a seal:  General Register Office, England.  Document #MXG027683.

Elizabeth Statters was indeed missing from my information.  I'll have to try to discover more about her, to see if it is possible that she is the birth mother rather than the brother Braithwaite.  As to the comment that the other Ann could simply be an entry error, the census documents would seem to dispute that theory.

Hi, I think that the only way to solve this, is to send for the Birth Certificate for Ann Statters, if there is only one reference, you will only get one certificate,
Margp

[groom]

Just reading this, and I'm surprised that Margie's idea wasn't suggested earlier. Surely the first thing to do would be to send for the two birth certificates and see who the parents are on there? You know from the censuses that there were two, so I think that is the only way to sort it out.

[lizdb]

That would tell you the parents of both girls.

But OP was wanting to know wnich of these girls was the one that married Isaac and thus was her ancestor.

The fact that the one that married does not name a father on the marriage cert suggests she was illegitimate. Therefore , if the birth certs of the girls comfirm one to be illegitimate, then that looks the most likely candidate. The censuses are imdeed suggesting that onegirl may indeed be the illegitimate child of Elizabeth and the other a child of John (James in 1851) , rather than one a child of Braithwaite and one a child of John.
If however the birth certs of the girls confirm the latter (as OP was thinking) then they will not clarify which one married Isaac but failed to name their father on the cert!

Im of the opinion one IS the illegit child of Elizabeth (as censuses suggest) and thus it is that one that married Isaac, but certs needed to confirm 100%

[heywood]

I agree with Marg and groom why not just send for certificates.
At first, I thought as Marg but then pages do have several names on them and all then have the same reference. The two children could have been born within a very short time of each other and registered together.
However, it could also just be a duplicated entry. Both show on the original.

Braithwaite is also a servant on 1851 census and Elizabeth's occupation as 'House Servant' is crossed through so it isn't quite clear whose daughter she is.

[lizdb]

Agree to send for certs. If Elizabeth is mother of one, illegitimate, then all sorted.

But if John is father of one, and Braithwaite the father of the other, it will not solve the OP's question!

[heywood]

But at least it's a step further. Then the death certificate of the young Ann may give an address or informant which could also be a help.

[MargP]

Hi

I have contacted the GRO, and it will be difficult to order these certificates, in the usual way, and they advised you e-mail   certificate.services@gro.gsi.gov.uk   or phone 0300 123 1837 and explain the situation

Margp