Mystery of two Anne Statters b. 1850

[heywood]

Hi

I have contacted the GRO, and it will be difficult to order these certificates, in the usual way, and they advised you e-mail   certificate.services@gro.gsi.gov.uk   or phone 0300 123 1837 and explain the situation

Margp

That's interesting Marg - and strange 

[MargP]

If you have 2 entries with the same reference, which one would they choose, unless you state who the mother and father was

I have never come across this before, you learn something new every day

Marg

[avm228]

You could order the 1862 death certificate.  On a child's death certificate of that date you should find in the Occupation box "son/daughter of X".

www.dixons.clara.co.uk/Certificates/deaths.htm#COL6

If the Ann who died in 1862 was a daughter of John, then the "other one" will be yours.  Sometimes a single mother is named: "son/daughter of X, a single woman". (I have 19th century examples of this, though the linked site says it shouldn't have been included pre 1969).

[jorose]

While they were both registered Bootle, Ann who married Isaac is listed as born "Drigg",  in 1881, as is the woman who is a servant in 1871, and Ann the niece (in 1851 and 1861) whereas Ann daughter of John seems to be listed as born Irton (in both 1851 and 1861).

http://www.cumbriabmd.org.uk/cgi/birthind.cgi?county=cumbria
both Ann Statters are also indexed here, with different references.  One has mother's maiden name listed as PORTER, for the other mother's maiden name is blank on the index.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

the one with mmn Porter is John's daughter. There's an Ann Porter marriage to a Richard Knight in Irton in 1831, who presumably is the Ann Knight whom John marries

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKB6-DP2

[jan57]

the one with mmn Porter is John's daughter. There's an Ann Porter marriage to a Richard Knight in Irton in 1831, who presumably is the Ann Knight whom John marries

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKB6-DP2

 It  seems  so  , Mabel  ,     I've  seen some certs on the   online  tree I  mentioned earlier ,   that   has  a marriage  cert for  John  Statters and  Ann Knight    a  widow ,   2  Knight   children are  on the 1851   census  as  son in law(step  sons)  to John 

[groom]

So, if you want to save money,  as you now know one is definitely John and Ann's daughter you could ask for the birh certificate only if it didn't show them as the parents - that would then give you the other Ann's mother at least. I would then also get the death certificate for 1862 and hope that gave some answers.

[MargP]

While they were both registered Bootle, Ann who married Isaac is listed as born "Drigg",  in 1881, as is the woman who is a servant in 1871, and Ann the niece (in 1851 and 1861) whereas Ann daughter of John seems to be listed as born Irton (in both 1851 and 1861).

http://www.cumbriabmd.org.uk/cgi/birthind.cgi?county=cumbria
both Ann Statters are also indexed here, with different references.  One has mother's maiden name listed as PORTER, for the other mother's maiden name is blank on the index.

I would send for the one with the mothers maiden name blank, from this site, instead of the GRO, and you will know you are getting the right one

[Jolee]

Have you tried to get their baptism records, maybe they could throw some light on it.