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Regimental Enlistment and Discharge Books
« on: Monday 27 October 14 11:37 GMT (UK) »
Is anybody able to confirm the following:

"The decision by the [UK] Ministry of Defence to discard the [WWII] Regimental Enlistment and Discharge Books, on the grounds of pressure on storage space, and the availability of individual soldier’s service records, led to a howl of protest from Regimental organisations. The result was that the Regimental Museums were offered the books".

Is there any resource that lists which enlistment books were passed to which museums? I've struggled to find much about this searching online other than occasional references.

I have my grandad's WWII service record but it doesn't seem to include enlistment paperwork, and the above would explain this.

Many thanks

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Re: Regimental Enlistment and Discharge Books
« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 October 15 18:36 BST (UK) »
Hello Chrisscales(sorry, I hope I have your name right)
I'm not too familiar with this site either....so maybe you can help me.

Did you ever get a reply to your query?
The reason I ask is that I have been researching a WW2 soldier. I was able to see on-line his partial service record. A tantalising last entry is in 1944 in which it says he was transferred to the CMP (?? military police??) on the 9th of June.

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Re: Regimental Enlistment and Discharge Books
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 24 October 15 08:19 BST (UK) »
Hi there

I would suggest you post this question as a new topic so that everybody sees it. You also haven't given any context, so there's very little to go on to work out what CMP might mean. e.g Was your soldier based in the UK? I'm not sure how you could have seen a UK WW2 service record online (US records on the other hand are online).

Unfortunately I never received any replies to the above question about the holdings of the Regimental Museums.

Best wishes,

Chris

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Re: Regimental Enlistment and Discharge Books
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 24 October 15 18:33 BST (UK) »
Hi Chris, thxs for getting back to me so quickly. I will post this again as a new topic, as you suggested, but I need to reword it.
Just to clarify matters to you, this was a British soldier.
I should have said that the information I found, was from the Army Book 358 not the service record. (Oh how I wish that I could see his service record, but I'm not related)
I know from other sources that he was sent overseas. So this would have been the entry in the army book and the CMP meant the Corps of military police.
So do you know why this would be the last entry in the Book 358?
I know that he survived and returned home.
I live in British Columbia, Canada but was born in the UK.




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Re: Regimental Enlistment and Discharge Books
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 24 October 15 20:49 BST (UK) »
Hi there

I would suggest you post this question as a new topic so that everybody sees it. You also haven't given any context, so there's very little to go on to work out what CMP might mean. e.g Was your soldier based in the UK? I'm not sure how you could have seen a UK WW2 service record online (US records on the other hand are online).

Unfortunately I never received any replies to the above question about the holdings of the Regimental Museums.

Best wishes,

Chris

I'm sure this was discussed on WW2Talk a number of years ago.

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Re: Regimental Enlistment and Discharge Books
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 24 October 15 20:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Chris, thxs for getting back to me so quickly. I will post this again as a new topic, as you suggested, but I need to reword it.
Just to clarify matters to you, this was a British soldier.
I should have said that the information I found, was from the Army Book 358 not the service record. (Oh how I wish that I could see his service record, but I'm not related)
I know from other sources that he was sent overseas. So this would have been the entry in the army book and the CMP meant the Corps of military police.
So do you know why this would be the last entry in the Book 358?
I know that he survived and returned home.
I live in British Columbia, Canada but was born in the UK.

You don't need to be related to see his service records-He just needs to be dead. I have five sets of service records to soldiers not related to me.

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Re: Regimental Enlistment and Discharge Books
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 25 October 15 05:04 GMT (UK) »
Really?? May I ask you how would go about this then?
Sorry to ask you so many questions......

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Re: Regimental Enlistment and Discharge Books
« Reply #7 on: Monday 26 October 15 21:19 GMT (UK) »
There is a FAQ here you may find useful
FAQ: Find and apply for Service Records 1920s onwards including WW2

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=652166.0

There is no need to post a new topic if your question is the same as this original poster as this has now been bumped to the top. You could end up with duplicate answer on both topics.

If you have a new specific question or slightly different topic then a new question could be useful.


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Re: Regimental Enlistment and Discharge Books
« Reply #8 on: Monday 26 October 15 22:32 GMT (UK) »
Really?? May I ask you how would go about this then?
Sorry to ask you so many questions......

Read through the link below, it's all in there. Basically if he's been dead for more than 25 years anyone can apply for a copy of a specific serviceman/women's records and get a full disclosure. Less than that you get a partial disclosure.

 https://www.gov.uk/guidance/requests-for-personal-data-and-service-records