Can anyone trace Adelaide Springett?

[nwill12]

Birthday either 19/02/1893 or 09/12/1892

[jbml]

Ooooh ... my eye was drawn to this thread, because I've just found Springetts / Springates in my tree ... albeit MUCH earlier: in 16th / 17th century Hawkhurst. Nevertheless, that line eventually migrates into the East End of London, too.

If any other Springett descendants posting / reading here have traced their line back to Hawkhurst, do please get in touch so we can compare notes.

[Annie65115]

In 1901 it appears to be a house occupied by 3 large families from Russia.

The Rosenburgs  x 5
The Brodtmans   x 10
The Robbinowitz    x 11

Excellent , so she could well have been a servant there then. Also the kids in the photo from 1912 look kind of foreign and the little girl she's pushing in the pushchair is definatley dressed in a foreign way.

Rather a late return to this thread but here's my twopennorth more --

I would be surprised if Adelaide were a servant in an east end house occupied by three families from Russia. If you look into the lives of Russian Jews who had immigrated into London's East End, they were mostly living in dire poverty and overcrowding, and not many of them would have had servants! (I think it's fair to assume that those families above were Jewish given their surnames!)

Where is the info that Adelaide was admitted to an infirmary in 1915? And I would like to see this other photo that's been mentioned, could anyone give a link for it please?

The 1939 register info backs up the electoral register of 1946 with the added bonus of confirming an appropriate date of birth      - I feel sure, from what we've found, that Adelaide Springett became Adelaide Harling, with or (much more likely) without a marriage to formalise that..

Finally, to newcomers who mourn Adelaide's "premature death" -- please read the rest of the thread! 

[Annie65115]

It's odd that Gun St can't be found on the 1911 census as I've just been looking at old maps and it was definitely there and didn't undergo a name change!

[nwill12]

Annie if you do a search on Ancestry for Adelaide you will see the infirmary admission listed there .
If not a servant at Gun St what was she doing giving that address when checking into the infirmary, she either lived there or worked there or was lying for some reason.
You refer to evidence that 'we' have found relating to her becoming Adelaide Harling , what evidence , what proof is there of that ?
Lastly the other photo of her with another girl and boy was in the book spitalfiels nippers by Horace Warner. I speculate that the other 2 kids may ave been living at the Salvation Army shelter while Adelaide and her mother were there. The girls name could have been Elder Stump who was 7 at the time and also lived with her mother at the shelter. Would be strange if they didn't at least know each other let alone be friends ! Horace Warner could well of had access to that shelter as a Quaker thereby meeting the kids and arranging the photo shoots, as they don't appear to be just random.

[groom]

You refer to evidence that 'we' have found relating to her becoming Adelaide Harling , what evidence , what proof is there of that ?
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I think this may come from the post at the beginning of the thread where Adelaide Harling also known as Adelaide Springett was found on the bona vacatia list and the death of Adelaide Harling where her date of birth matched that of an Adelaide Springett entry to a school.

[nwill12]

You refer to evidence that 'we' have found relating to her becoming Adelaide Harling , what evidence , what proof is there of that ?
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I think this may come from the post at the beginning of the thread where Adelaide Harling also known as Adelaide Springett was found on the bona vacatia list and the death of Adelaide Harling where her date of birth matched that of an Adelaide Springett entry to a school.



A bit tenuous I feel !

[groom]

I'm afraid I don't think that you are going to get any concrete proof, but I wouldn't describe what people have found as tenuous, given as it has the same date of birth that links to several records including the 1939 register.

[nwill12]

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I think this may come from the post at the beginning of the thread where Adelaide Harling also known as Adelaide Springett was found on the bona vacatia list and the death of Adelaide Harling where her date of birth matched that of an Adelaide Springett entry to a school.
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Note the date of birth listed on that document is 19/02/1892 . Adelaides birthday has been verified as either 19/02/1893 or 19/12/1892 .

So very tenuous indeed I think , hat she became Adelaide Harling !!