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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide Springett?
« Reply #54 on: Wednesday 14 October 15 11:50 BST (UK) »
Apparently the landlord didn't clear the mess up and four years later the new occupants were living with the bloodstains still on the walls and floors.

We're used to reading about the dreadful conditions some people had to endure, but that is truly appalling
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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide Springett?
« Reply #55 on: Wednesday 14 October 15 12:01 BST (UK) »
In order to get a better insight into Adelaide's life and times, l bought some books on the subject. I found that detail in 'The Worst Street in London' by Fiona Rule.  It paints a picture of uncaring landlords who subjected their tenants to a life of misery in their pursuit of profits.  The author, Jack London, lived in the area for a short time and wrote 'People of the Abyss' about the 'Nichol', a couple of streets away from Dorset St. There are other books on the subject and they all paint the same picture of people trapped by circumstances that they can't free themselves from.

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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide Springett?
« Reply #56 on: Thursday 15 October 15 22:40 BST (UK) »
Adelaides twin sisters Ellen and Margaret were born prematurely on the 15 Mar 1891, in the Raines Street, Workhouse Infirmary, Wapping and died of Atelectasis.  Something to do with the lungs not being fully formed and unable to support life.  I've no idea at what stage of pregnancy this may have been.

Can happen at any stage but normally under 34weeks they don't have enough surfactant to keep the lungs inflated, between 34 and 37 weeks they produce more but some will still struggle at that stage

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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide Springett?
« Reply #57 on: Wednesday 20 January 16 11:02 GMT (UK) »
A very interesting topic.

I have a few things to add

The 1901 photo, Adelaide and her mother were living at Sally army shelter in hanbury st. So she wasn't living at Millers court at the time that was taken.Other than the school admissions cant find anything linking her to that address. But she and her mother Mary ( not Margaret) are listed in that census as living in the shelter.

Cant find her on the 1911 census although theres reference to her checking in at the workhouse infirmary in 1915, stating she was a servant and lived at 53 Gun St.

Unable to search by street address to see if there are similar names to hers living at Gun st in 1911 census.

Found a photo from 1912 taken on the corner of Crispin st and Dorset st. The girl looks remarkably like her and is dressed in what looks like a black servants dress (could even be a tea room uniform) and is with 3 children , one in a pushchair. Unfortunately its impossible to zoom in with any clarity to see if the girl has that pear shaped mark on her cheek. She would have been 19-20 at the time and it fits that she would be a nanny come servant and it is just round the corner from Gun St.

The other girl in the 1901 photo, I'm guessing is her best friend and further guessing that she may be one of the 2 girls listed of that age in the shelter in the 1901 census.

Haven't been able to find any reference of her mother dying at the workhouse in 1907. However there is a reference to Horace Warner( the photographer) saying that he kept in touch with the family until 1906, death is not mentioned.

My question is; is there a way you can search by address on Ancestry or other sites as finding her on the 1911 census in Gun st is the missing link at the moment


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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide Springett?
« Reply #58 on: Wednesday 20 January 16 12:47 GMT (UK) »
My question is; is there a way you can search by address on Ancestry or other sites as finding her on the 1911 census in Gun st is the missing link at the moment
Yes.

I assume you mean Gun St Spitalfields?

I had a look and couldn't find anything I would claim as Springett

I cant say anything more as its 1911.
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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide Springett?
« Reply #59 on: Wednesday 20 January 16 13:51 GMT (UK) »
How do I do it then please ?

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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide Springett?
« Reply #60 on: Wednesday 20 January 16 21:02 GMT (UK) »
I think you are on the right track so don't be discouraged.

Its Rootschat policy that 1911 Records cant be displayed.

I would visit a library that has a Family History section and ask to use the computers to get FREE access to subscription sites. e.g FindMyPast has a section searchable by address or name for the 1901 and 1911 Census. You could try using that. Or someone may send a private message to you with what information they may find. I couldn't see anything on a search of Gun St Spitalfields. Others who know the areas better may have better search techniques or know the nuances.

Good luck :)
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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide Springett?
« Reply #61 on: Wednesday 20 January 16 21:20 GMT (UK) »
I think you are on the right track so don't be discouraged.

Its Rootschat policy that 1911 Records cant be displayed.

I would visit a library that has a Family History section and ask to use the computers to get FREE access to subscription sites. e.g FindMyPast has a section searchable by address or name for the 1901 and 1911 Census. You could try using that. Or someone may send a private message to you with what information they may find. I couldn't see anything on a search of Gun St Spitalfields. Others who know the areas better may have better search techniques or know the nuances.

Good luck :)


Thanks for that , I would specifically like to know who lived at 53 Gun st in the 1911 census. I'm hoping I will see 3 children ranging from 3-9 years old. That would suggest from the 1912 photo I mentioned and her admision of being a servant in 1915, that was where she worked.

I would be happy if someone messaged me those details if poss : ))

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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide Springett?
« Reply #62 on: Wednesday 20 January 16 21:56 GMT (UK) »
Like David, I've looked on the 1911 for Gun Street as an address but can't see it, although it is there in 1901.
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