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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« Reply #27 on: Friday 21 November 14 21:04 GMT (UK) »
Lizzie, that is what I have for Elizabeth but am waiting to see if it can be confirmed at all.
Wm enlists on 30/01/1907 and his Mother has a death record that may match in oct-dec 1907 so she was alive when he signed up?

I totally agree Annie.
I have found the same situation as this with a relative of mine.
Slightly different but all 3 lived together for many years and all helped raise the young children together regardless of parentage. Quite an enlightened family really for the 1930's.


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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« Reply #28 on: Friday 21 November 14 21:33 GMT (UK) »
I've found an Adelaide Springford of nearly the right age in 1911. I can't make out the place of birth.

Obviously the name isn't correct but I wonder if this might be our Adelaide; three points:

1. I can't find any birth registered in this name anywhere in the country for a wide range of years around Adelaide's birth year
2. On the same census page, a few up, is another young woman whose surname is also Springford. Her birth is on freeBMD.
3. This was a big building with multiple occupants. It wouldn't be surprising if the person who filled in several of the names got one or two slightly wrong.

What do you all think?
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« Reply #29 on: Friday 21 November 14 22:27 GMT (UK) »
That could well be a possibility as names are sometimes transcribed incorrectly.
She is listed as born in Forest Gate? And the other girl is said to born in what I think says Plaistow?
Think Forest Gate is a bit further out from what I can see on the map it looks like it is in Newham?
It could be like you say, all occupants details may have been completed by the Manageress who may not have known her background at all.






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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« Reply #30 on: Friday 21 November 14 23:00 GMT (UK) »
Hmm. Wapping and Forest Gate look as though they are quite some way apart.

This is the other Springford on the page

Births Sep 1890
Springford    Henrietta        W. Ham    4a   83

I can't see her in 1901 either! But there is a possible siting in the workhouse in 1891 where there was also a 22 yr old Eliza Springford ?her mum. As I said, I can't see any Adelaide Springfords at all anywhere on freeBMD.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)


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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 22 January 15 14:39 GMT (UK) »
if anyone is still looking into this I found some unclaimed property with her name on it.

http://www.unclaimed-estates.org.uk/bv862623/1

unless in the UK this is standard advertising in which case oops.

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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 22 January 15 17:41 GMT (UK) »
It looks very official doesn't it ! I think they are a Probate Research Company.

Here's the link to the governments Bona Vacantia list

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/unclaimed-estates-list#the-list

Nesta

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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 01 April 15 13:45 BST (UK) »
Hi
I note below the reference to William J Springett who I believe is my great grandfather. He died a few months after Elizabeth Springett (my grand mother was born).
I believe he had siblings but I'm not sure who they are.
Does anyone have information on this?

Morning all,
I stumbled across this post whilst trying once again to locate Adelaide.
Agree that she is probably the Adelaide Hurling on the Bona list but like all of you I cannot find a marriage for her and her Husband who i think is Frank Hurling.
I wonder if Frank was previously married? Despite trying different permutations I cannot find
any marriage record on either BMD, Ancestry or Genes.
I wonder if their relationship was not formalised as he was legally bound to another?
There is an Adelaide and Frank in the electoral rolls from 1939-1951.
I think he may have died in Chelsea in 1952 as there is an Adelaide is living in the late 50's-60's  in Chelsea.
There is still a question mark over the life and outcome of her Brother William John Springett who is  in the forces, he enlisted in Spitalfields in 1907 and gives his address as a boarding house.
There is a marriage for a William J Springett who married who marries in 1921, it looks as if this Wm died in 1926...

Another possibility is a death of a William J Springett in 1954 which is the same place I think his Father died.
Perhaps between us all we can try to solve a few of the outstanding questions we have in the search of Adelaide...
Where is she in the census of 1911? (I have traced her Great Aunts and Uncles and she does not appear to be with them)
Where is Adealide pre the 1939 electoral roll?
If Frank was married, who was his Wife? (There are a few possibilities)
Is Frank British or did he come over during the war?
What happened to her Brother?

Anyone got any other avenues we need to pursue?

Kind regards
Helen

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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« Reply #34 on: Friday 03 April 15 22:39 BST (UK) »
Hello, I think I'm the one you're looking for.  William John Springett was my Grandfather.

He married my Grandmother Elizabeth Jane Holley on the 13th August 1921.  He was a Flour Miller, living at 46 Croydon Rd, Plaistow.  His father, also named William John Springett, is noted as a Costermonger.

They had a daughter Elizabeth Lily (my mother), on the 9th September 1925.  Her birth certificate was square rather than the usual rectangular type that we know today. He is a General Labourer at this point.

William, a labourer at a flour mills, aged 38, died of a heart attack on the 23rd August 1926, still at Croydon Rd.

I have a photo of my Grandmother at my mothers wedding, 11th December 1943.  She is with her second husband William John Cooke, who died 1950.  Lizzie died aged 64 in 1955.

A lady from a Spitalfields group contacted my nephew last November and I passed him some of the above information, including what my mother told me some years ago about her family coming from Marylebone.

Does anyone have any details of his Army service?  My mother told me he served in India and had contracted something during his service that may have led to his death.

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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 08 April 15 17:36 BST (UK) »
Hi
Thank you for the information however this does not explain a link between William Springett and Adelaide Springett.
Did he have a sister called Adelaide that you are aware of?

Hello, I think I'm the one you're looking for.  William John Springett was my Grandfather.

He married my Grandmother Elizabeth Jane Holley on the 13th August 1921.  He was a Flour Miller, living at 46 Croydon Rd, Plaistow.  His father, also named William John Springett, is noted as a Costermonger.

They had a daughter Elizabeth Lily (my mother), on the 9th September 1925.  Her birth certificate was square rather than the usual rectangular type that we know today. He is a General Labourer at this point.

William, a labourer at a flour mills, aged 38, died of a heart attack on the 23rd August 1926, still at Croydon Rd.

I have a photo of my Grandmother at my mothers wedding, 11th December 1943.  She is with her second husband William John Cooke, who died 1950.  Lizzie died aged 64 in 1955.

A lady from a Spitalfields group contacted my nephew last November and I passed him some of the above information, including what my mother told me some years ago about her family coming from Marylebone.

Does anyone have any details of his Army service?  My mother told me he served in India and had contracted something during his service that may have led to his death.