John McCormick/ McCormack

[heywood]

John is my Mother-in-law’s father. Denis is given as the name of his father on both of his wedding certificates. What started me off on this last night was noting that a DNA match to my Mum in law of 341cM has an unattached tree. His Grandmother was an Annie McCormick. I have messaged the match but previously I haven’t received replies.

Have you tried shared matches between your mum in law and Annie McCormick?

[Rosinish]

John's parents given on his marriage certificate in 1917 are Dennis McCormack, Farmer, Deceased and Mary McCormack, also deceased. In 1917 John was a 46 year old Night Watchman in Edinburgh.

Does the marriage not give the maiden name of Mary to confirm it's Mulherin?

Annie

[Rosinish]

If I recall, the couple  in Ayr has no children with them - unusual after 9 yrs of marriage and they are both farm servants.

Are both stated to be married?

What are the names of the children?

Edit...I think I've found one named Jane who married twice & died 1979 Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland

Annie

[Rosinish]

John McCormick / mack died in Rosyth in November 1937.

What info. is on his DC, does it name his parents &/or mention a previous wife?

Annie

[heywood]

I am bothered that we are going off track here.

Scotland’s People shows this marriage
1902 Ayr
Peter McCormick and Margery Harley

So Ayr looks good for John and Susan in 1901

[brigcs]

Thanks Heywood and Annie for all your messages today.

Heywood your message that I just read about a Peter McCormick marrying a Margery Harley makes me think that the Madge with the children in 1911 was potentially a sister of the Susan I have been hunting for. Earlier you mentioned that it was odd that John and Susan in Ayr in 1901 had been married for 9 years and didn’t have children, I had thought that too.

Annie you asked about certificate evidence of John’s Mum’s maiden name. The only place I have it is on an online baptism record and the records of his siblings. On his Irish wedding certificate it doesn’t give the mother’s name. On the Scottish one it says Mary McCormack. The Jane in Kirkcaldy might be of interest as that’s not far away from Rosyth. I have a short death certificate and Obituary but neither mention family.

Thank you to you both for helping me, you have given me food for thought. If I am lucky the match will reply to my email.

 Very best wishes Brigcs

[heywood]

You’ll have to scrutinise it and map it out.
If John and Susan had no children, and Annie is the daughter of Peter and Madge then your mum in law’s match would be through McCormack.
I think you said m-i-l is from 2nd marriage anyway so there would likely  be no match through the Harleys.
Are there any shared matches between mum in law and Annie’s descendant?

[brigcs]

The evident match is between MIL and Annie’s Grandchild but that person matches lots of our family. If Peter was Annie’s Dad that makes Annie
MIL’s cousin.

Thank you again Annie and Heywood. Your insight has been so helpful. Brigcs

[heywood]

The evident match is between MIL and Annie’s Grandchild but that person matches lots of our family. If Peter was Annie’s Dad that makes Annie
MIL’s cousin.

Thank you again Annie and Heywood. Your insight has been so helpful. Brigcs

Yes, I think that’s what I meant but the match would be from the McCormick line. I think it was the emphasis on Susan Harley that muddled it a bit.