Family of Robert Fathers, Birmingham

[Nanna5]

Looking for verification of family of Robert and Mary Ann Fathers, Aston, Warwickshire. Have conflicting information from baptisms of some children
 e.g William, Bapt. 1879; Father: Robert CHARLES, Mother: Mary Ann   Holy Trinity, Bordesley
       Elijah and Martha, Bapt. 1881; Father: CHARLES, no mother listed; Christ Church, Sparkbrook
       Alice, born 1885; Father: CHARLES (on her marriage certificate) Cannot find baptism record
       Beatrice, Bapt. 1887; Father: Charles, Mother: Mary Ann (BUT her father is Robert George on the marriage certificate); Christ Church, Sparkbrook
       Lilian, born 1888; Father: Robert George on her marriage certificate. Cannot find baptism record.
Other children born to Robert & Mary Ann (these parents names are listed on their baptism records)
Robert George & Mary Ann Bapt. 1875; Robert Frederick Bapt. 1876; Henry Bapt. 1878; William Bapt. 1882; Rose Bapt. 1883.
Has there been an error in the recording of the fathers name OR have I simply mixed up 2 completely different families??? Census records place the children with Robert and Mary Ann. Although Robert is not in the family home for the 1901 Census.
Any suggestions will be most welcome. Many thanks.

[karenlee]

Hi

Where you able check both the occupation of the father and the address given for each of these Baptisms??  That might help sort out whether or not you have two families here.

Cheers
Karenlee

[rosie99]

Is this the family in 1891 Aston
Robert Fathers   36
Mary A Fathers   41
Frederick Fathers 14
Henry Fathers   13
William Fathers   7
Alice Fathers   6
Beatrice Fathers   3
Lily Fathers   2
Rose Fathers   4 months

and the same family in 1881
Robert Fathers   26
Mary Fathers   30
Mary Fathers   5
Frederick Fathers   4
Henry Fathers   3
Martha Fathers    1 month
Elijah Fathers    1 month

[rosie99]

Census is showing William as born c1882
Christening at Sparkbrook -
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXXQ-XR7

Alice also christened Sparkbrook
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NYDQ-YY3

both parents Robert & Mary Ann

[rosie99]

This looks like Robert in 1911 familysearch free index  with middle name George
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWZ7-S9B

[rosie99]

All of these marriages give father as Robert George Fathers
Mary Ann
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXR6-65C

Robert Frederick
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXR6-YG4

Beatrice
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXRX-BH5

Lilian
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFDY-WVJ

[Nanna5]

Thanks for your prompt replies rosie99 and karenlee. The family you have listed in both those census listings is the one I have been researching rosie99. I actually found 2 Williams - 1 born 1879, died 1880; then the 2nd born 1882. Yes, karenlee, in all the baptism entries I have found the fathers occupation is listed as "bricklayer", which matches the census entries and children's marriage details I have as well. The address changes quite a bit over the times of the baptisms:
Court 37, High Street, Deritend - 1875
33 Court, High Street, Deritend - 1876
4 Dover Place, White Road, Bordesley - 1878
3 House, 6 court, White Road - 1879
White Road - 1881
White Road - 1882
3 House, 11 Court, White Road - 1883
59 South Road - 1887
Found some of those addresses rather interesting e.g. 3 House, 6 Court, White Road. Whatever does that mean??
Thanks again.

[rosie99]

Found some of those addresses rather interesting e.g. 3 House, 6 Court, White Road. Whatever does that mean??

I would imagine it would be
House 3 (though probably just one or 2 rooms)  within Court 6. 

Anyway I don't think you have mixed the families, for some reason he used the name Charles at one point.  Do you have his christening / birth registration

[Nanna5]

Thanks rosie99 -good to hear you have come to the same conclusion that I thought possible. Robert George Fathers must have used the name Charles for some reason, or the church official may have misheard or written the wrong name down perhaps. I don't have a copy of his birth registration itself but do have the registered entry numbers etc.
Robert Fathers (child of Frederick Fathers and Martha Alder nee Bateman) was born in Upper Heyford, Oxfordshire in 1855: March quarter 1855, Registration District: Bicester, Vol. 3a, Page: 515. He is listed on the 1861 Census for Upper Heyford just as Robert Fathers, aged 6, son of Frederick and Martha Fathers.
To verify his middle name I will have to purchase the certificate.
Many thanks for your help. More work yet to do on the children and siblings of Robert Fathers and their respective children.