lost link

[Lenhoppy]

Hi
I am trying to connect my ancestors between  John Prior Hopkin born  may1827
his father and mother  William and and \Sarah Denver Norfolk
I cannot find a marriage or death date for John Prior Hopkin any where
I have  lost the link from him  up till George Hammond Hopkin born Denver born 1855 other wise I am up to date.  there was a son called Prior Hopkin to the same mother who died at 3 years of age
Len

[AMBLY]

Hi Len

FreeBMD has a death: John Prior HOPKIN age 58, Registered: Sep Qtr 1883, Kensington - could this be him?

How does George Hammond HOPKIN fit in?  He was the son of William HOPKIN & a Mary? Married Maria FALL in 1854?

Cheers
AMBLY

[KGarrad]

Marriage: June qtr 1852
St Pancras district     vol 1b, page 161

Hopkin, John Prior
+ and on the same page +
Puckridge, Sophia


Marriage record:
19th June 1852  at the Parish Church in the Parish of St Pancras, by Licence
John Prior Hopkin, of full age, Bachelor,  Greengrocer, of St Pancras
Sophia Puckridge, of full age, Spinster of St Pancras

Fathers: William Hopkin, dead   and George Thomas Puckridge, dead
("dead" appears under "Father's Rank or Profession"!)

[KGarrad]

Do you have the censuses?

1861
Class: RG 9; Piece: 36; Folio: 80; Page: 14
1st October Street, Chelsea, Middlesex

Hopkin, John P  Head  M  34  Greengrocer  b Deane, Norfolk
Hopkin, Sophia  Wife  F  35  b Shoreditch
Hopkin, John P  Son  M  8  Scholar  b Chelsea
Hopkin, Sarah S  Daughter  F  6  Scholar  b Chelsea
Hopkin, Henry H  Son  M  Son  M  4  b Chelsea
Hopkin, Jessey E  Daughter  F  1  b Chelsea


1841 census:
Class: HO107; Piece: 754; Book: 7; Folio: 20; Page: 7
Ten Mile Bank, Denver, Norfolk

Hopkin, Abraham  M  25  Farmer
Hopkin, Mary  F  25
Hopkin, Abraham  M  3
Hopkin, John Chris  M  1
Hopkin, John Pry.  M  14
Hopkin, George  M  9
Hopkin, Mary  F  44

[Lenhoppy]

Hi Guys
Many thanks
The John Prior Hopkin definitely does not fit in

George Hammond Hopkin I am sure he fits in as I remember my father mentioning that he was born in Denver and moved to linthorpe Mbro I know the exact street Benson St

I also know that I am related to Francis and Sarah Hopkin nee Hammond married in 1778 at Fordham Norfolk
Some where in between  I have gone wrong
I will keep battling on
Regards
Len

[KGarrad]

Start again from who you DO know!
And then trace them back.

Trying to "connect" families is far too difficult!


Can we start from your grandparents? Or Great-Grandparents?

[babyboy]

Len, who are you trying to link?

John Prior Hopkin
bap 8 May 18 27 St Mary Denver Norfolk, son of William (farmer) & Sarah Hopkin


George Hammond Hopkin   Do you mean this one baptised in 1832???
bap 21 Nov 1832 St Mary Denver Norfolk
parents William (farmer) and Mary HOPKIN

Note mother's names are different

this could be why


Sarah Hopkin
buried 26 Feb 1829 St Mary Denver Norfolk aged 45

Re-marriage for William??
William HOPKIN Widower m (by licence) Mary HANES of Emneth Widow23 May 1831 St Mary Denver Norfolk
Witnesses: William Hanes & Ann Hanes

[babyboy]

Having looked at your other thread this looks like how your family line links to Francis and Sarah Hopkin (nee Hammond) (Hopefully I have not made a mistake)


you born 1928

your father Walter Hammond Hopkin born 1900

your grandfather Walter William or William Walter Hopkin born 1875

your great grandfather George Hammond Hopkin born c1832 in Denver Norfolk

George Hammond Hopkin was the half brother of John Prior Hopkin born 1827, they shared father William Hopkin. John's mother was Sarah and George Hammond's mother was Mary.


Here is the burial for William Hopkin (your 2x great grandfather):

William Hopkin buried 4 Jan 1839 age 58 St Mary Denver Norfolk

this would indicate that William was born c1781

there is this baptism for a William Hopkins in 1781in Denver:
17 Apr 1781 son of Francis & Sarah Hopkins

and this marriage for Francis Hopkins and Sarah Hammonds
21 Dec 1778 at St Mary Denver Norfolk
Witnesses: John PRYER & William BRIGHTON

[Lenhoppy]

hi
many thanks to all who replied

what I know;   George Hammond Hopkin born Denver Norfolk 1832 was my ancestor because my father was born in Benson st  Linthorpe the same address that George Hammond moved to from Denver
To much of a coincident to be incorrect
Geo first wife was Maria who died and he remarried to Mary
As one of you mentioned, which I did not know was that John Prior Hopkin was half brother to Geo.
I was wondering how the name Prior kept creeping in ,because Sarah Hopkin nee Hammond had a son named Prior who died approx. 3 years