Help needed .... Ways to find the correct person.

[Benn2509]

Hello to all.
It's been some time since I was last here, but due to recent events I feel I need to get back into this.
Anyway, I'm trying to find the death certificate of my 2 x great grandfather, John Johnson. So far I have bought 3, all of which are incorrect! Although the name, age & locations all match. I have spent some time going through the bmd lists, and I think I have narrowed it down to 3 matching people. But before I carry on spending I'm wondering if there's a way of narrowing it down further, perhaps by using electoral registers to find the year he is no longer listed??
I have his address in the 1911 census, and I know he is deceased by 1936 (his son's wedding), and I have the address of his widow in 1948. Is there a way of checking the electoral roll from 1911 onwards until he is no longer listed, hopefully giving me the year of his death.
I would need to travel to Manchester library, so I want to be sure it can be done before making the journey.
Unless the electoral rolls for manchester are available online??
I hope someone can help,
Many thanks,

Benn.

[heatherjulie]

Hi Benn
You say you have his address in 1911, which part of Manchester is it?
Which area was his  son living in in 1936?
Which area was his widow in in 1948?

What year was he born?

Heather

[Benn2509]

Hi Heather, Thanks for your reply.
I think the family were based in the Bradford/Beswick areas.
In 1911 the address is 16 Park Place, Bradford, Manchester. (Prestwich reg.district)
In 1936, his son is living at 18 Copestick Street, Ancoats,
and in 1948, His widow (Isabella Johnson) dies at the same address, 18 Copestick street, Ancoats.

John Johnson was born approximately 1863, in Bradford, Manchester. (According to census). This is my next challenge - to find his birth!
His occupations are listed as mill stoker, miller fireman, Boiler Fireman & General Labourer on the various census returns & certificates I have.
I hope this extra info can be of help.

Many thanks,

Benn.

[BonnieDownUnder]

Hi Benn,
You may have already checked this out but if you know where his widow was buried, maybe she was laid to rest with him.  Bonnie

[Benn2509]

Hi Bonnie,
Yes I have looked at that, and it appears she is buried in a grave belonging to her daughters' husbands' family. No sign of John Johnson unfortunately.
Thanks for your reply. 

Benn.

[heywood]

Hello Benn,
I was just going to post with the same suggestion re burial.

Do you have his marriage? Did he marry Isabella Ackerley?
It is on Lancashire opc.  http://www.lan-opc.org.uk
St Anne's Ashton Under Lyne October 1881
His address is Burlington Street - where the church is and his father is also shown as John Johnson
I can't see him there though!
Heywood

[BonnieDownUnder]

See that Isabella Ackerley's mother Catherine living with family C1891 and C1901.

There is a death FreeBDM
ACKERLEY, Catherine
Q4/1901 Prestwick 8d/238
age shown as 72 but should be 82.

Just a thought, John Johnson may have been buried with his mother in law?
Bonnie

[miw]

Hi, might be worth talking to the Registry Office for the area and ask them to search for the death, you can give them more details to check against than the GRO. Although even with GRO you can now ask them to check certain details for no extra cost, just say that you don't know the reference numbers on the order a certificate form and you get taken to a different screen but they only search 2 years (at least it's 2 years for births) and if they don't find anything you get a refund but no details of which details couldn't be matched.

[Benn2509]

Thanks for all the replies. 
I do have his marriage certificate, and yes it was Isabella Ackerley he married. I too searched the address and found no sign of them, I'm guessing a false address was given....or maybe a mispelling leading to the incorrect address being written down. I also can't find them in 1881 census.
I did see the death of Catherine Ackerley, I haven't yet ordered her death certificate, I didn't actually think of him being buried with her, something I will look into.
Finally, I think speaking to the registry office is probably my best way forward, I was hoping to find another way first, but will go down that route.
Thank you all for the replies. Still open to more suggestions should anyone have an idea.
Cheers,

Benn