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Monrath
« on: Sunday 19 October 14 04:13 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find out when Odine Monrath and Clementina Josephine Monrath emigrated to New Zealand. I know when they married [Odine - 1890 to James McColl and Clementina 1884 to William Woodward] and I am slowly tracking down their children but I have got stuck in regard their origins and when they arrived in NZ. If there is any kind soul out in Roots Chat land who can help me I would be grateful.
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Re: Monrath
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 October 14 04:36 BST (UK) »
Hello...

1873 into Auckland aboard the Berar

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11680-90588-72?cc=1609792

Mother (Julie), daughter (Clementine) and.... grandchildren?

I can't find a birth for Odine or Carl. Reasonably sure that Julie is their grandmother as her husband Sophus died in the 1850's and there's no obvious re-marriage. I'm not too sure if Clementine is their mother.

EDIT: 1869 register for Trinitatis parish in Copenhagen has Clementine as Odine's mother. Father is Hans Peter RIEVERS. They are not married. No mention that I can see of an 1872/73 birth for Carl.

Out of interest, Julie and family were nominated migrants. It's mentioned in the "Remarks" column on the far right of the passenger list. According to Archway the 1873 ledger to which the column refers still exists. Might be worth a look to see who nominated them. Maybe Johanne Mathilde, later ALEXANDER. Maybe not.

Nominated immigrants - list of passage orders
http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=18365419

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The family origins are pretty much covered on various trees on geni.com....

http://www.geni.com/people/Juliane-Marott/6000000015616511203

...but just be aware that in several Danish records the family name is given as MONRAD, not MONRATH. Specifically the 1840, 1850 and 1860 censuses.

Regards
Beg

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Re: Monrath
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 October 14 05:33 BST (UK) »
"and I am slowly tracking down their children"

1892/5258    McColl   Mabel Agnes   Odine   James   
1893/9363    McColl   Odine Hilda   Odine   James   -
1892/5259    McColl   Adelaide Josephine   Odine   James   -   
1898/14397      McColl     Evelyn   Odine   James

From:
www.dia.govt.nz/births-deaths-and-marriages

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Monrath
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 October 14 05:38 BST (UK) »
And birth for Clementin(e/a) Woodward.........


1888/509   Woodward   Kenneth Isaac   Clementine Josephine   William Isaac


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.


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Re: Monrath
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 October 14 05:43 BST (UK) »
Oh - Is that twins - Mabel 1892 and Adelaide 1892?  Many thanks. I can't imagine how I missed the births I have only been on BDM all afternoon -  ??? - talk about not seeing what is right in front of you.
This is truly marvellous :)
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Re: Monrath
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 October 14 05:52 BST (UK) »
In 'Papers Past' there is a description of the voyage from London of the 'Berar' which you may find interesting. ['Auckland Star' dated 3.9.1873.]

The Monrath family are shown here as:

Julie, 54.
Clementine, 23.
Odena, 3.
Carl, 1.


Also the marriage of Clementine Josephine, daughter of the late S. Monrath, Esq., of Copenhagen.
['Auckland Star', dated 12.7.1884.]


http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Monrath
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 October 14 05:59 BST (UK) »
Yes, Mabel & Adelaide were twins. D.o.b. was 27.4.1892.


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Monrath
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 October 14 06:02 BST (UK) »

I can't find a birth for Odine or Carl.
Regards
Beg

According to a tree on the Ancestry website, Odine MONRATH, was born in 1869 in Trinitatis, Kobenhavn, Denmark.  Carl born 1872 in Demark. 

When has your end of stick been wrong Beg? ;D :D


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Re: Monrath
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 October 14 06:15 BST (UK) »
Clementine Josephine Woodward died in 1925, aged 75 years.

Her probated will (1926) is held at Wellington archives.

www.archway.archives.govt.nz


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.