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Re: Help please: William Tomsey CREECH
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 11:54 GMT (UK) »
Having taken a break for a couple of weeks due to the frustration and endlessness of everything,I am now back to looking :S.
I have found(Thanks to a very helpful person on the Trova AU forums) that Mary Louisa "Power" was in fact born LEWIS in 1861 in Collingwood,and a few more details.

Thanks for the help and input,I have no doubt I will be back with further requests for help
Sharon

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Re: Help please: William Tomsey CREECH
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 12:30 GMT (UK) »
Would you like to share the information with us please.  Every little snippet helps us to help you.

We are no wiser as to whether or not the 1887 death for Charles CREECH was your Wm.  I think this death needs to be researched further. Not a commonly occurring surname, age and father's name was a match.  Just my opinion.

Have you considered purchasing this cert, which can be done online and immediately downloaded?

In case you didn't read the links I posted previously....
From Victorian Resources at the top of the board
Deaths
 Date and place of death;
 name and surname;
 occupation of the deceased;
 sex and age;
 cause of death,
 duration of illness,
 medical attendant by whom certified and when he last saw deceased;
 name and surname of parents (if known) including mother's maiden surname, signature, description and address of the person who gave the information;  signature of deputy registrar, date and where registered,
 when and where buried,
 undertaker whom certified;
 name and religion of Minister, or names of witnesses of burial;
 place of birth of the deceased and how long he or she resided in the Australian colonies or  states (stating which),
 name of spouse,
 place of marriage,
 age at marriage;
 names and ages of children of the deceased.   

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Re: Help please: William Tomsey CREECH
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 12:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi
The information I have is for Mary Louisa and her siblings.

Bessie Bernard (registered as LEWIS, mother Betsey Anna BERNARD)
Born 6 May 1857

Mary Louisa (registered as LEWIS mother Elizabeth Hannah BERNARD)
Born 17 Aug 1861

Laura (probably LEWIS but I can’t find a birth reg.)
Born 25 Sep 1862

Harry (registered as POWER mother Elizabeth BERNARD)
Born 16 Feb 1865 (? hard to read)

Emily Morrish (registered as POWER mother Elizabeth BENARD)
Born 1869

Sarah Morrish (registered as POWER mother Elizabeth BERNARD)
Born 1871
(Father’s name given as Martin but mother is Elizabeth BERNARD so his recorded name might be an error. Also see my comments below)

Violet Mabel (registered as POWER mother Elizabeth Hannah BARNARD)
Born 1874

The oldest four children were made wards of the state in 1867 as neglected children, and Laura and Louisa were readmitted in 1874. The registers are digitised online on the PROV website.

To search within the relevant series, go here http://tinyurl.com/p9p2jl5
Put 4527 in the VPRS box
Put POWER in the "With any of the words" box
Search

Scroll through the results to find each child and click on their name. On the next page you will see either PDF or JPG, click on that and the digisted record will download.

You are looking for:

Louisa POWER (No. 2315) 1867 (this is Mary Louisa)
Laura POWER (No. 2316) 1867
Harry POWER (No. 2317) 1867
Bessie Bernard POWER (No. 2380) 1867

Laura POWER (No. 7775) 1874
Louisa POWER (No. 7776) 1874

The 1867 records are difficult to read, but the same notes are repeated on the 1874 records and they are much clearer. The children are referenced to each other on the records.

Father Thomas POWER, a miner, supposed to be in NZ on 16/5/67. Mother Elizabeth H. POWER an attendant in the schools on 16/5/67. (the earlier documents name her as Eliz. Hannah)

Just a note about the name of the father on Sarah's birth reg. If you have a look at Trove, there was a man named Martin MORRISH around at the time so would be worth consideration as a possible father for those two girls. The 1874 notes still reference back to Thomas being in NZ in 1867 with no update so I think it unlikely that he was the father of the later children.


I know this is not really of help regards William Tomsey Creech.  I have found mention of a William Tomsey Creech in London,before my W T Creech was born,so maybe a relative,the name is not common and the tomsey at a guess as come down from maybe a females surname.

I will purchase some certificates once I have the funds to do so,bit strapped at the moment.

Sharon

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Re: Help please: William Tomsey CREECH
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 13:16 GMT (UK) »
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Francis Creech
Name: Francis Creech
Spouse: Anne Maria Morgan
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 24 Aug 1846
Parish: St John, Paddington
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: William Creech
Register Type: Parish Register

Williams parents.


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Re: Help please: William Tomsey CREECH
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 22:41 GMT (UK) »
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I am trying to trace William Tomsey CREECH,he was born 1849 Marylebone London UK,  He is later listed in Australia as marrying Mary Louisa Power in Victoria.  Mary Louisa remarried in 1889 in Victoria and was listed as widow and previous husband deceased in 1887.  I have some of Williams navy record from England but the details are few and far between,I have been unable to trace him,William and Mary had 3 children together the last ebing born in 1886 in Victoria.  His life and death in Australia are a complete mystery.

I've obviously misunderstood your request and reply#18.  I thought 'a few more details' were about Wm.  I'm sure we could have assisted you with information about his wife if you had asked :)

You 'mystery' may have been solved if you had been in a position to purchase the 1887 CREECH death certificate.

It would appear we possibly had one of our chatters helping Sharon on this forum ;)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/forum/showthread.php?1876-HAMBL%28E%29Y-POWER-CREECH-Perth-Victoria-1800-s

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Re: Help please: William Tomsey CREECH
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 05 November 14 23:20 GMT (UK) »
Not having much luck finding a death record was he still in the navy ? maybe he died at sea

If he had three children in Victoria,  it's a bit hard to envisage that he was still in the Navy.

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Re: Help please: William Tomsey CREECH
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 06 November 14 03:15 GMT (UK) »
Sharon a gentle reminder that it breaches copyright to copy and paste from websites such as ancestry.  You are required to transcribe the information.  The information posted on rootschat must be your own work.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Marriage Jun 1848
LEWIS Charles Thomas  Kensington  3/298
BERNARD Elizabeth Ann  Kensington  2/398

Birth
LEWIS Mary Louisa
Father Charles Thomas  Mother Elizabeth Hannah BERNARD
At Collingwood  1861  Reg#18102

Possible death :-\ :-\
LEWIS Charles
Parents unknown
1861  Born London  45 years  Reg#8859

So others helping with this thread can see the subsequent marriages of Mary Louisa.

Marriages
CREECH Mary Louisa Born Fitzroy
HAMBLEY Thomas  Born Wales
1889   Reg#4367

HAMBLEY Mary Louisa
JESSUP James
1903  Reg#509
District Kookynie

Death of Mary Louisa LEWIS aka POWER 1948.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article46883518

JESSUP  In fond and loving remembrance of the mother of Bill Creech, daughter-in-law of Louie, grandmother of Kaloma, Trevor, Jim and great-grandmother of Robert.

JESSUP On January 13, at Leederville, Mary Louisa Jessup, late  of 225 Cambridge Street, Leederville, the dearly loved mother of Bill, Lou and Claude, aged 88 years.

JESSUP  In loving remembrance of the mother late Laura Monson and grandmother of Beryl, Dorothy, Ron and Allan, great-grandmother of Bevan, Brian, Susan, Ronald and Kenneth.

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Re: Help please: William Tomsey CREECH
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 06 November 14 03:37 GMT (UK) »
Could we please have the source and your details of William Tomsey CREECH's naval records.  I note in the 1871 census is is an Able Seaman aboard the ROYAL OAK moored off Naples.

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Re: Help please: William Tomsey CREECH
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 06 November 14 04:03 GMT (UK) »
In response to an email to MGC today.  Extremely fast service ;D

I have queried the 31 years on their database as Charles CREECH's age on the death index was 37.  Possibly an error transcribing from old records to the database.

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