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Uniform Identification
« on: Thursday 16 October 14 00:05 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help me identify this uniform and the medals he is wearing?

This is my husbands great grandfather, Charles Sherlock born approx. 1877.  He is a bit of a mystery and a lot of the information we have seems to be not ringing true.  He was supposed to be born in North Shields but we can't find any record of this and I do know he was married in Melbourne in 1904.

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Re: Uniform Identification
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 16 October 14 02:34 BST (UK) »
There’s a Chas SHERLOCK marrying Mary Ellen WHARLTON or WHORLTON in 1904, registered Victoria, Australia.   Is this your same chap?   If so, do you have that mc?   I ask this as the mcs for Victoria are very very informative, and include details about the birth places for the bride and the groom, any previous marriages (including children of those marriages), and many other family history info.   (Vic BDM #975R)

When did the chap in the photo die?  Do you have the original of the photo?  If so, what is written on the reverse side?

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/explore/defence/service-records/army-wwi.aspx  Have you looked for his WWI service records?   Some of the AIF files have many pages of info, including correspondence with family members.

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Re: Uniform Identification
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 16 October 14 02:59 BST (UK) »
Sir John MONASH is the chap in the linked photo here :
http://acms.sl.nsw.gov.au/album/ItemViewer.aspx?itemid=977050&suppress=N&imgindex=1

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Re: Uniform Identification
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 16 October 14 08:07 BST (UK) »
I am adding this link to help advance our OPs quest.   

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=702022.0


It was not (and is not) my intention to claim to identify Sir John Monash as the person in the OPs photo.   I linked the State Library of New South Wales photo of Sir John simply to allow everyone following the thread to notice the similar uniforms.

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Re: Uniform Identification
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 16 October 14 13:17 BST (UK) »
Légion d'honneur worn on the necktie indicates a Commandeur.

http://www.gwpda.org/medals/frenmedl/france.html

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Re: Uniform Identification
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 16 October 14 13:28 BST (UK) »
Well, the person in Rahnee's photo appears to be a General Officer (Staff Tabs and General Staff hat badge) with Medals : 1914/15 Star, British War Medal, and Victory Medal with MID Oak Leaf, Volunteer Decoration, and a slightly obscured medal that looks as if it could be the Croix de Guerre. Around his neck is the insignia of a KCB and centrally beside the row of medals is a seven pointed "star", the insignia of the KCMG.
All of this fits with it being Sir John Monash, unless there is another WWI General of similar appearance and awards.
Perhaps family memories were confused ??

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Re: Uniform Identification
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 October 14 13:41 BST (UK) »


http://www.rootschat.com/links/01cjp/

Different ears,  perhaps even different coloured eyes.   

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Re: Uniform Identification
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 October 14 13:54 BST (UK) »
Agreed, JM, facial features don't fit.
As it is unlikely to be someone "dressing up" we need another General  :)   There were an awful lot of them by the time you include all the "Dominions". Pity we can't read his actual rank !

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Re: Uniform Identification
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 16 October 14 14:12 BST (UK) »
The London Gazette would be the place that lists all honours and awards.

But, I did a search on Charles Sherlock, and got no results?! :-\
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