Uniform Identification

[Nova67]

I think it would be worth a try with the Research Centre as they would probably use the same processes as some of the experts here. I have no knowledge of military uniforms myself.

There was a Charles Sherlock b. 1808 as a boarder, occupation excavator, staying in Hett, Durham on the England Census in 1871. Had a son Charles Walter Horne Fulliger Sherlock b. 1850 Havant, Hampshire. So that's no use either.

Can't really narrow down a Charles to being born 1875-1878 in North Shields, as have to search for all of "TYNEMOUTH". There are other Sherlock's that seem to be associated with North Shields e.g. Thomas Sherlock b. abt 1813 Tynemouth. North Shields certainly makes sense for someone with sea-faring origins.

Ahhhhh.....

[Jebber]

There was a Charles Sherlock born in Tynemouth, but that was c1864, thirteen years too early, he was a mercantile underwriter, and he died in Tynemouth in 1910. At least it confirms there was a family of that name living there at around the time your Charles said he was born.

[Nova67]

Yes, that is Charles Herbert Stanley Sherlock.  We have eliminated him.  He died in Northumberland in 1910.  Thomas' son.  Still it is interesting that there are other Sherlock's there in North Shields.

Might be worth reading the other thread. Linked in earlier replies.

Maybe he was a foundling, but the where did he get those names from? Parents: Charles Sherlock and Mary Carter.

Considered Mary may have had another surname and later became Carter, but then who is Charles Sherlock SNR?

No Charles Carter births c. 1877 either.

Did he borrow all this from Sherlock Holmes Is it an alias?

He got into a bit of trouble too, per TROVE newspapers, maybe fell out with family?  Could he have bought the photo?

[Nova67]

Just throwing this out there...

If Charles Snr was a boilermaker then its possible he too was somehow connected with ships.   

There are records of a Charles Sherlock / Shurlock, mariner, b 1848 in either Hyth, Beds according to the 1871 census (RG10; Piece: 3777; Folio: 125; Page: 8;) or Heath Oxford according to the following TNA record:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C11738569

In 1871 there is also an unmarried Mary Carter aged 30 from Liverpool lodging at Percy St Tynemouth.  The family she is lodging with is also called Carter so may well have been family.   

Possibly entirely unconnected but the 1881 census has the following in the Tynemouth Union Workhouse, North Shields:

Catherine Sherlock, 22, b Blyth
Mary Ann Sherlock, 3, b Bedlington
Isabella Sherlock, 1, b Blyth

I cant find Catherine in 1871 so whilst its a long-shot it may be worth getting the birth certificate of one of the children to see who their father was and whether he too was a boilermaker.  If nothing else it MAY place Charles the mariner in North Shields at the right time 

From the other thread:
This is still worth considering, particularly if the mariner was visiting North Shields at the time and he and Mary never married?

[Nova67]

This Charles Shurlock was born in 1847 in Hethe Oxfordshire and became a Master Mariner. In 1861 the family lived in Cumbria (which is about as close to Northumberland as I've got him) and his father was the Rector of Bassenthwaite. In 1869 (per his Master and Mate Certificate) he is living in Liverpool.  Married  Frances in 1890 in that city. Had three children and around 1901 emigrated to California, where they lived in San Diego.
Not seeming that likely either, but only on England Census 1851, 1861 and 1901, then US Census. That's a lot of sailing in between if skipping the Census, unless bad transcriptions

[Nova67]

In 1871 there is also an unmarried Mary Carter aged 30 from Liverpool lodging at Percy St Tynemouth.  The family she is lodging with is also called Carter so may well have been family.   

I guess she is next to check out

[Nova67]

There was a Charles Sherlock born in Tynemouth, but that was c1864, thirteen years too early, he was a mercantile underwriter, and he died in Tynemouth in 1910. At least it confirms there was a family of that name living there at around the time your Charles said he was born.

Charles  Herbert Stanley Sherlock was born in 1861 in Tynemouth registration district. Cannot find him in 1871, so do not  know what profession was then?  Other Census give birthplace as North Shields.  Technically old enough to be your Charles' dad if born 1877.  But that same problem of no birth registration for yours.