Thomas Johnson and Ann (maiden name?)

[dianacl]

Thomas, my 2x g gfather was born in Eastwood in December 1805.  I presume he and Ann were married sometime in the 1820's, but have spent a couple of years searching, to no avail, and therefore have not identified Ann's maiden name.
Their Children's baptisms were recorded in the parish records of Eastwood, (Found on LDS films) but no marriage recorded. (Thomas, John, William, Ann, George, Mary and Henry.) In 1841, Charlotte and Martha Johnson also lived with them, but I believe these were relatives other than their children.
The most likely candidate is Ann Carrott, who was married to a Thomas Johnson in 1827 in Langford.  The stumbling block is the groom's abode, Barrowby, Lincs. Thomas was born in Wellow, and worked in Eastwood (Blacksmith), so what was he doing in Barrowby?
Any advice on the next place to look to confirm Ann's name would be appreciated.  Thanks.  (I live in Canada)

[Ayashi]

So what happened with regards to the childrens' birth certificates? Are the names too common to narrow down? If you have the christenings, you could use the date to give an approximate birth range and approach the local registry office or the GRO for a more advanced lookup, giving parents names (Thomas and Ann) so they can locate the relevant certificate. If you've tried this and it hasn't worked for whatever reason... hmm...

[CaroleW]

If they married in 1827 birth certificates were only introduced from 1.7.1837 so if all their children were born before then - you will not find her maiden name that way.

Any children born from 1.7.1837 whose birth was registered will give you Ann's maiden name. 

To help in narrowing a birth search on freebmd - Eastwood came under the Basford Registration District

[Ayashi]

Carole, I looked at the census, there are something like 5 children born after 1837. This is why I mentioned it. I assumed, given that Diana has got this far back, that she must know about birth certs by now and there must therefore be some reason why these were not useful.

[CaroleW]

From freebmd  www.freebmd.org.uk

Births September qtr 1848 
Henry Johnson  Basford    15   439

[dianacl]

Thank you for your thoughts Carole and Ayashi.  I think that Thomas and Ann didn't civil register any of their children, even though I (and probably they) know they should have. Henry, my g.Grandfather was baptised in Eastwood on Dec 3, 1848. (LDS parish record microfilm)  I sort of dismissed the "Basford Henry" you suggested Carole, as the wong time and place, but perhaps I should send for the record and see if  his parents names match my Henry's, and Ann's maiden name is revealed.
So that's my next move.  Will let you know what happens. Thanks again. Diana

[Ayashi]

Eastwood is in the Basford registration district, which is what the "Basford" on the index means, so it is the correct place as far as the index goes. Most babies weren't christened immediately after birth- he could have been several months old at the time (unless your christenings give a birth date). One of my ancestors wasn't christened until he was 9 years old!

Good luck

[Annie65115]

Eastwood St Mary baptisms, from the FHS CD, all with parents Thomas and Ann/Anne Johnson, and Thomas's occupation as a blacksmith throughout:

        1832 11 04   Thomas Hawkley    JOHNSON   
   1835 07 05   John   JOHNSON   (abode Brinsley -- all others have Eastwood as abode)
   1838 01 07   William Oxley  JOHNSON   
   1840 07 05   Ann   JOHNSON   
   1843 08 06   George   JOHNSON   
   1846 04 05   Mary   JOHNSON   
   1848 12 03   Henry JOHNSON   

Note middle names of Hawkley and Oxley - could they be relevant to Ann's maiden name?

There is also this one; did Ann die and Thomas remarry?

   1854 07 02   George; father Thomas   JOHNSON   mother  Amy      father's occ Blacksmith   abode Eastwood     EASTWOOD St Mary   

[Annie65115]

Here's a marriage for Thomas and Amy

1853 11 13   Thomas JOHNSON      Amy   KNIGHTON          RADFORD St Peter

but maybe he was Thomas Hawkley - there are no deaths for Ann at Eastwood before this time.

William died as a baby:
   
1846 04 08   William   JOHNSON   Inf   

Was this Thomas's wife?
1866 10 02   Ann   JOHNSON   60   

and this:
1875 10 24   Thomas   JOHNSON   71