Rebecca Macfarlane Stewart - parents information

[MonicaL]

Mel, sent you a PM to see if I can help...

Monica 

[MonicaL]

Got three certs together now.

1915: Marriage entry for Jessie Burnett (to David Graham) that we have been discussing before. Snippet again with signatures of Jessie and David G.

1922: We have a snippet from Rebecca's 1922 birth, with parents' signatures, Jessie Burnett and Samuel Stewart.

1932: Second marriage for Jessie Burnett. Same Jessie as we had from 1915, confirmed from her parents' details.

Forfarian, I think the two marriages, 1915 and 1932, reflect what you said perfectly. I have the whole cert and therefore easier to see, and I would say the 1915 cert includes original signature by bride and groom. However, the 1932 cert is in a sigle hand and therefore a copy from the original. Happy to send on to anyone who wants to see these in full.

I have a view on the signatures of 1915 and 1922. What do you all think?

I will attach on the next post (wish I was clever enough to line them up side by side for comparison!).

[MonicaL]

3 snippets below as discussed:

[MargP]

The signatures, on the 1915 marriage and the 1922 birth look very similar

[Forfarian]

Interesting.

The third one is obviously the Registrar's copy, in his rather beautiful handwritings, so not really helpful.

There are definite similarities between the first two - the capital J matches quite well, and some of the other letters are similar. I am not too bothered about the missing middle initial or the second t at the end on the second one. Given that they are seven years apart, I think they could indeed be the same person's signature.

[MonicaL]

Hurray  Those are my thoughts too. I think they are very similar. I also think the second T on Burnett is likely to be on the box margin...but as we know, spellings were not a big deal at this time so whether it is single or double 't' not really an issue.

I have sent a message to SP asking them whether they can enhance the image of the signature from the 1915 marriage. Hopeful they can, enough for us to get a clearer image of the letters etc.

Monica 

Added: I so like the fact that in both 1915 and 1922 the dot of i on Jessie is on the e...sigh 

[MargP]

And both halves of the B's look like a 3

[MonicaL]

Samuel Stewart as father for Rebecca, we have now lots of hard confirmation for him on details:

We have him certified on:

1911 census: Married and right occupation and right area of Glasgow
1915 valuation roll: at Rebecca's birth address for 1922 and right occupation
1920 valuation roll: at Rebecca's birth address for 1922 and right occupation

His age, from the adoption papers fits the family we have found for him potentially. We also have a likely twin George who shows at the same address on the VRs 1915 and 1920.

We have an a/try tree for the family of Samuel that fits well to (not sure if you have had a response yet Mel from the tree owner).

Cannot find a marriage entry for Samuel to Harriet (as showing in 1911). Thought it might be an irregular type marriage too (although not certified  ). Cannot also see anything in England for a possible marriage either.

Outstandings for Samuel:

Marriage to Harriett?
What happened to him after 1925 (cannot easily see a death for Harriett to help with this).
Did he remarry?
Death entry?

Monica

[Gadget]

Hi Monica 

Have put the two signatures together, as I think you wanted, and I think that they are definitely the same.

Gadget