Will of John Isaac HOLBOROW, 1881, Sydney

[AshkeJ]

Hi,

I am hoping that somebody can help ... or offer some advice! I've never ordered a will from Australia before so would like to ask a couple of things before I do so!

John Isaac Holborow died 23 July 1881 in Sydney, NSW (he lived in Waterloo, I believe). I have a copy of his death certificate and his marriage certificate and neither are particularly fulsome when it comes to parentage! (His death certificate names a father and mother but I can't find a marriage in England for those names so wonder if the informant only gave the best info they had.)

Searching on the State Records website for NSW I found a will for a John Isaac Holborrow with the same death date as the death certificate. Now, I don't mind spending the £30 or waiting for it to be despatched and arrive, but I wondered if anyone had ever ordered an Australian will from this time or had any thoughts about what to expect ... It is listed as part of 'Series 3' and 'Probate Packet'. I have no problem with emailing the Western Sydney Records Centre in Kingswood and asking them, but thought I'd give it a shot here first!

I'm trying to fit this gentleman in with the UK Holborow family and am hoping that there might be some clues in his will to possible siblings or nephews/nieces!

Many thanks,

Dominic

[majm]

Hi there,

These probate packets can be very interesting and full of family history info, or  just a single page document detailing how a person's estate was dispersed.    May I suggest you pause for a moment as sometimes there's RChatters who are planning on visiting the NSW SRO and they can take images of the files for you.

On the other hand, can I please ask about your chap's marriage ..... you mention that it is not particularly fulsome with it comes to his parentage.    Was this a NSW marriage from 1856 forward ?   If so, it may well be that the NSW BDM received only a summary quarterly return.  If it was a NSW marriage, when and where and which denomination? 

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

Something is not quite right here.

I have not found the 1881 death of John Isaac HOLBOROW registered under that surname at the NSW BDM online index.  (SEE next post, found  indexed with two 'r')
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/bdm_fh.html
I have not found the index entry for a NSW  Probate Packet for a John Isaac HOLBOROW who died 1881.   

I can find a death and a corresponding Probate for a chap by that name, but the death is far more recent.   It is for 1952 and the death is registration # 1079 at NSW BDM.    It is indexed as part of Series 4 at NSW SRO Archives Investigator.  Died 6 Feb 1952,  Probate granted 28 May 1952.
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/collection-search

Cheers,  JM

 

[majm]

The NSW SRO Deceased Estates index has J I HOLBORROW (two 'r') of Waterloo, DD 23 July 1881, Duty paid 26 August 1884.   The remarks column includes the note 'NO FILE' but does give first and middle names. 

The newspaper announcements show he had adult sons and daughters.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/28381841 25 July 1881 SMH

Cheers,   JM

[ian-nz]

Ancestry have a death for John I Hollobrow in 1881 in Waterloo, NSW with parents William and Margaret.

This is probably the gentleman Dominic is after.

Pauline

[majm]

NSW BDM online also has HOLLOBROW, the reference is #4113. 
John I HOLLOWBROW
parents as William and Margaret
registered Waterloo district in 1881.

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/bdm_fh.html
and like the NZ BDM you can drill down the dates, so it seems likely this is the same chap that Pauline has noticed at Ancestry.

Cheers,  JM

[cupoflife]

Probate Packet: John Isaac Holborrow Date of death 23 July 1881, Granted on [not known]
http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/Entity.aspx?Path=\Item\303317

[Neil Todd]

John I HOLBOROW and Johanna CANTWELL lost two sons one in 1903 John HOLBOROW and Isiah HOLBORROW in 1916. They married 1844. No convict ties found. No marriages for daughters under the two names, although one daughter born 1860? Mary B HOLBOROW

When an where in England are you attempting to tie this John Isaac.

If it is same fellow, when Married in 1844 he went under Isaac  according to NSW BDM returns.

Neil

[majm]

http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/learn/search-our-collections/sands-directory/sands-search
1879 Directory
Waterloo
114 Botany Road – East side
Holborow, John J., woolsorter, (Inspector of nuisances), Buckland St

Cheers,  JM